the natural newbie....maybe not



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:50 pm 
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hi fella's,

so i recently introduced myself as 'the natural newbie'. that post contains further details as too what i'm talking about and i sounded very self assured in that post (its recently posted in the 'introduce yourself' forum.

now, i have been operating under a safety blanket up too this point, using a female wing and her group of friends to practice game , and achieve a few number closes and feel some genuine interest and notice a lot of IOI's. it also describes how i am new in the city of Doha...........

well tonight, without the aid of a gang of girls I'm already comfortable with, i decided to crawl the local bars and clubs, maybe tuesday wasn't the best night of the week to do this, or maybe I'm making excuses, but decided to head out alone to the five trendy, cool bars around walking distance from home and have a crack at cold approaching strangers. DISASTER!!!

I stated that i never really suffered from the whole approach anxiety thing, maybe because i've never been alone in a new place in a quiet, closed, very male dominated environment, every place i went into was quiet, real quiet, and this is what happened.....

bar 1, walked in, dressed and feeling good, ready for war, there's very few sets standing, all sitting round tables of four or two and maybe 1 or two girls in them all quite closed. i strode through, slow and cool, feeling very cool but couldn't make any eye contact to try and force ioi's, i approached the long straight bar, i seen a five set further down it with a girl i thought was looking at me, i'm sure i made a good enough, high value entrance, but instantly blew it, i didn't approach, i hovered at the edge of the bar waiting to get the barman's attention, didn't after a minute or two and felt like an extreme afc!! bottled it and left to the next bar across the road.

bar 2, walked in looking dappa, slow, cool, smiling, i felt the girl inside checking ID's and the doorman were very willing to let me enter and extended warm friendly greetings, at a place that is supposed to be pretty exclusive. I walked around slow, making eye contact, seen a few sets, and again, being alone in a place like that with out friends or wingmen, I quickly felt alone. i seen a perfect two set, thought about opening, but didn't, it was a small bar and didn't want to do more than 2 walkthroughs!, i don't think i lowered my value, i kept cool and strode through but again bottled it and left for the next place.

bar 3, no joke, not a single girl in the place, not one, but its a bar i know, so i sat and had drink and a smoke, flirted with the waitress, who I'm sure likes me and i find it very easy to interact with, but I'm not really interested in, and re-grouped, cold approaching alone is gonna be hard, and I'm feeling pretty low about my performance thus far. i gather my courage and decide to try another.

bar 4, very cool spot, 55th floor, great views of the city, i know a lot of the staff so walked in, had a dance with the hostess, said hello to a few other staff, ordered a drink, this place has no standing room, its dark, full of very intimate tables, facing out the windows towards the view, seen a three set on a table and again, didn't approach. finished my drink whilst on a phone call and left.

bar 5, i know guys, bare with me, again, just three sets in the whole place 100% men, in and out in 20 seconds,

bar 6, the long shot, a sports bar, and the only other place close enough to home that i was willing to go to alone, I ordered a drink and there was a three set directly behind me, i refused to go home without at least one approach so i opened them with some canned material;

PUA (turned slowly, i think body language was good, half to the side and over the shoulder) "hey.......let me ask you guys a question, (pause) and give me an honest answer, (pause) do i look gay?

target (instantly and enthusiastically) "YES"

PUA (A little taken off guard) "umm, shit, i thought so, i was just at this other place, blah, blah, guy giving me eyes, anyway, I'm new in town, meeting people, whats your names?

target "natalia' (handshake)

girl 2, "(some name i don't remember)" (handshake)

girl 3 "I don't remember"

PUA "you don't remember your name? haha (turned to target,) thats pretty bad, i bet you can't take her anywhere!"
(yes, i just negged the wrong fuckin girl)

giggles around

PUA "you seriously can't remember your name?"

girl 3 "no hhahaha"

PUA (to other two) "she's useless haha, so what are you guys doing in doha?"

target (demonstrating some weird body language, not sure if nerves or disinterest) "you know, like everyone else, we work and we live"

no other comments from any of them and a couple seconds of silence.

PUA "OK, (turn to girl 3) you remember your name yet?"

girl 3 "nook, hahaha nervous laugh"

PUA (at this point, in a very quiet bar, feeling uncomfortable, but maybe not showing it, addressing target) "you work and you live?"

target "yup"

PUA "thats really boring, i'll see you guys later"

Rolled off, pretty coolly, found a hidden booth, nailed my drink and returned home feeling not nearly close to the surprisingly natural newbie in doha i had been feeling like, left!

Its funny, when i've been introduced to people, and part of a group, i"ve had no problem opening, talking, negging, introducing kino, escalating, getting number and kiss close's, and in the past when i was younger, and out with friends, (before ever hearing about PUA) approaching girls, pulling girls, f closing, etc, is this mental?

I thought i would nail it tonight, but i entered new places alone, with the sole intention of cold approaching alone, I have never done that, and it was HELL!!!

I'm worried that if i'm gonna continue my training alone, in isolation, without a wing, I'm doomed to failure! I'm glad i did that last cold approach, as fuckin weird as it was, but i can't find a wing out here in doha, and am really gonna have to force myself to go out and do that again! i need some help guys!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:44 am 
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Ever since before I first took up pua I've alway gone out alone. I just didn't know that most people did it in groups. So... As you can imagine, it was pretty harsh. Many days of barely talking to anyone.

Firstly, if you are alone, open dudes. A 4 set of young guys are really bet easy to get in with. Be seen holding court. Instant wing men, etc. plus it is a way to settle in, be social. The stategy being to wait for a girls night out to arrive and you are already the leader of a group or two and in a great position to open them. Plus you can blend the sets and be a hero to everyone.

Go alone, but don't act alone or lonely.


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