Alright.I recently got divorced and i'm looking to hook up with with this cute assed little 19yr old HB7.5.I've been the sweet sensitive nice guy for too long and i'm looking to fix my problem.I'm not much of a smart ass so i need some tips with this chick to really set up a nice scenario.I'm a bit shy but can handle a conversation pretty well once the ice is broken.

I'm this NICE guy who is looking to snare this cute badboy lover.She is really sweet natured but i need some tips on breaking her down and out of the freind zone.We have only known one another a little while but have talked about sex openly.Ross Jeffries says that anything the girl says can be used as information and i'm trying not to allow my sensitive side to show that much although i have a bit.Really i need to show some dominance over her without intimidating her and making her feel like total shit...

We talk alot online also on MSN so i'd like some tips for chatting and some negging tips for that..I'm trying to use this as a self help program for myself to break the nice guy mold. Anything would be appreciated bros..

Draw me up a simple scenario for chatting and some tips for isolation,negging and so on....

there's no real simple solution or answer. there's also nothing wrong with being a nice guy. i recomend picking up some of the books/e-books running around out there. it'll give you a place to start.

Well you can try some things...

For instance...

Have a lil fun, but not too much, and take lil stabs at some of her comments here and there when the time seems right...

You see you wanna give her attention in the way she is not use to...
If she is used to getting her ass kissed all the time, then you gotta have fun with her, with very little compliments, for example...NEGS...

Negs aren't put downs, but they don't compliment either...

You can talk about her shoes, tell her you think they are decent and how you've seen like 6 girls wear those today...

You can talk about the clothes and say the same thing...
I use this a lot...

ME: WOW...Thats like the billionth time this week that I've seen that shirt...
Must be on sale or something...Very trendy, well for now anyways...*Smirk*

Eye contact is good, but make sure yer not in her facial area, kinda be slick, like James Dean ya know... You make a remark when you see its right for one...

But always keep her in convo...

If you are to touch her, only touch her hands, the side of her arms, and they are gentle touches...

If she gets touchy feely with you, try to keep her hands off, and make comments like

-Yer gonna have to pay for that...
-You keep it up, and I'm gonna have to charge you...
-Hey, listen, I charge by the minute, do you really wanna spend a lot of money tonight?
-You can only touch me when I say so, failing to do so will onlylessen any chances of you getting to touch me later on tonight...

Shit like that...

Like if she makes a cheezy comment, be like...

-Awwwwwwww, how corny!!! *BIG SMILE*

Make sure you have an intellectual side to you, talking about something that would wow her...Women like a mystery, the less you tell them about yerself, and the little you reveal they seem more interested as to who you are...Just give the bits and pieces...

If you know a good joke tell her...

Now remember throughout this whole process, you gotta make it seem like she needs to be with you...

If she asks a personal question, tell her you don't know her well enough to disclose that information...*smirk/smile*

When you do find yerself a lone with her...You can bring out the big guns...

You should always lead her on as if yer gonna rip her clothes off, then slowly move away then repeat again, until she wants you...

If she is wild and young, try to make her feel wild and young, if you can score outdoors, she will never forget it...

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Thanks alot for the tips. It is really appreciated.I've learned throwing some cockiness in there helps too.I spoke to a really hot girl the other day at least a 9.5 and she asked if i went out with her on a date "Would i grab her ass??"and i told her"She might wanna grab mine first,I admit its really sexy!!" She turned red and smiled!!!

I'm just trying to not be so upfront with my flirtations and i'm going to do that from now on. Its seems to make you look like your desperate if you flirt too heavily and the hottest chicks are used to hearing fucking compliments all the time so maybe its better to not answer her direct questions right out the gate...

I also picked up Neil Strauss' "The Game."I read the first 110 pages in a flash and i really enjoy it so far.There's alot of cool tips in there too...I'm really trying to change my whole thinking process toward women.I was married for 3 and a half years and after getting divorced i realized "Hey'I need to have some fun.Meet some new girls and really learn to talk to women again ya know???I'm really pretty shy so i need some work..Any other tips are needed and appreciated bros...

Thanks..

Good shit right dur brother...

I like that line...

That was a form of her giving you a "Shit" test, they come in many many, varieties... Watch out, cuz one typical AFC response will blow yer chance of even finishing the convo...

Try not to be too shy anymore...

If you keep an opend mind, and I don't really give a fuck mentality, you should be good, just be you, but the NEW YOU!!!

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custom as per se you are on the money.

i would suggest you read jugglers how to be a pick up artist.

i think it would really apply to your mentality and style; e.g shyness.

good luck brother

Really anytime a girl in a roundabout way is searching for compliments its a "shit test" i suppose and they are very common..Chicks are always looking to others to stroke their ego..I want to really change my old ways into still being nice but throwing that bit of arrogance in there too.I think what my potential problem is with this is when to actually compliment them without negging.You can neg a chick to death.

I think our mothers and grandmothers screwed us all up by teaching us to be gentlemen. Sure we can be gentlemen without actually selling out our confidence attitude and manhood like an idiot.I was raised to be this respectful nice guy and sure i've had some women but after a failed divorce i just feel the need for change.I'm too shy and often kick myself for not speaking to certain chicks.Then there are days i'll talk to anyone.Its weird.

I'm a RAFC but I think i may have potential to do well if i can really nail down the process.I like Mystery's methods really well cause he's so ballsy with his stuff.If anyone has anymore method recommendations let me know.I'm really just trying to see what i think might work well for me..

Thanks to all.