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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:26 pm 
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Don't freak out guys.

There is a very simple solution:



Start talking to her about sex with YOUR EX. Praise the ex about bjs, anal, going on top... or WHATEVER you want YOUR girl to compete with the ex. You can be creative and make up stuff too.

She will soon start complaining and saying she doesn't want to talk about sex anymore... and she will also be jealous of the ex... and start competing in sex to prove that she is better.

Most possibly she doesn't know that she is being an idiot. This will bring back her self awareness...

Good luck!
This is why relationships go to shit and end horribly: Mind games.

Never turn a relationship into a game of jealousy. If your only weapon to combat something that annoys you is to get under the other persons skin or make them jealous then you're destined to fail and have very poor and unrewarding relationships.

Mind games are what teenagers do and they never end well. It's a poor tactic that has no lasting appeal or long term solution to definitive problems. You should remove any such tactics from your repertoire if you seek to have a fruitful and mature relationship with anyone.
Well if you want to be "natural" why are you in this forum anyway?
It looks like you have a serious problem in understanding the difference between defending yourself against bad behaviour and building a relationship in wrong foundations.
He's in a relationship with this girl. I am pointing out how to keep that relationship healthy and playing mind games isn't helping the relationship. And I don't see how "defending" yourself comes into this. His girlfriend is talking about sex with her ex's which bothers him. It's a red flag and he should walk away but as a general rule you should never use jealousy as a weapon when pursuing a relationship. There's no natural or unnatural game equating to this just common sense from a relationships perspective.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:12 pm 
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Do you realise that the girlfriend just talks like a broken record there? She won't stop if he tells her.
Listen to that...
I had a female friend that on every sentence she was starting with the phrase "my boyfriend did ... ", "my boyfriend said.. "
I was fed up after 15 days of listening about her boyfriend. I told her that it was annoying. She told me that I was a bad friend. We had an argument.. after we were again friends she started again: " my boyfriend said.." "my boyfriend did.. " I mean ALL the time she was talking about her boyfriend.
I just had enough and I started talking to her about MY boyfriend. Then she realised how annoying I was. And she stopped the bad habit.
I did not base my friendship with that girl on manipulation but if I wanted to be friends with her I had to do something about it. In everything else she was a really nice person. I just couldn't take it every 5 min having to listen about her boyfriend.

In the case of OP there is a slight possibility that the girl misses her ex because she has some feelings left. A bit of jealousy will make her snap out of that and she will be able to enjoy the present.
I am not saying he should go on after that for the rest of the relationship.
I did not talk about MY boyfriend to my friend. I did it only to make her realise that she was being annoying.

Do you understand me now better?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:39 pm 
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You're comparing a friendship to a relationship? This isn't a viable comparison, Maria_. Completely different situation entirely.

It still stands that jealousy is essentially a tool of manipulation. It's not good for a relationship regardless of the reasons for doing so. It may make her stop but she will still be jealous and annoyed over it thus my point being it is bad for a relationship to play mind games, especially when trying to make another person jealous. I've been in a lot of relationships I learned never to play into the jealousy mind game crap long ago. It always serves for horrible relationships that end terribly.

OP, if this woman does not take the hint after you tell her off about it then dump her. She's not girlfriend material. Don't play mind games, it's weak, immature and spells disaster for a relationship and easily spirals out of control.

Jealousy equates to insecurities. If you play on these insecurities bad things will happen. The point of a relationship is to be happy and secure with one another, not the other way around.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:10 pm 
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You're comparing a friendship to a relationship? This isn't a viable comparison, Maria_. Completely different situation entirely.

It still stands that jealousy is essentially a tool of manipulation. It's not good for a relationship regardless of the reasons for doing so. It may make her stop but she will still be jealous and annoyed over it thus my point being it is bad for a relationship to play mind games, especially when trying to make another person jealous. I've been in a lot of relationships I learned never to play into the jealousy mind game crap long ago. It always serves for horrible relationships that end terribly.

OP, if this woman does not take the hint after you tell her off about it then dump her. She's not girlfriend material. Don't play mind games, it's weak, immature and spells disaster for a relationship and easily spirals out of control.

Jealousy equates to insecurities. If you play on these insecurities bad things will happen. The point of a relationship is to be happy and secure with one another, not the other way around.
A relationship IS in a way a friendship... but with more feelings involved.
Sometimes the occasional mild mind game is needed.
If you go completely mind game free you will end up with someone that there is compatibility but there won't be any passion or any feelings to keep you together. Just a good friendship with sex.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:46 pm 
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It depends how she talks about them and what she says. If she talks in graphic detail about the sex then yes it's a red flag, but a girl who has been in several long term relationships is gonna bring them up from time to time. Act cool and unaffected and perhaps drop in stories about ex's of your own, if she is sharp she will get the message.

The short term goal at the beginning of any sexual relationship is to milk as much sex out of her as possible because a) you don't know how long it will last and b) if you sex her correctly, you are trying to get her hooked on your cock and fingering technique. Kind of like a drug dealer gets his customers hooked on meth. It's only later that you will decide whether she is compatible with you as a person or not.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:10 pm 
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That is not a girl you build a relationship with!

Either she's that slutty, or being directly disrespectful.
Perhaps even that ignorant.
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Girl talks about sex....so she's a slut?

One of the founding PUA principles is that we can't bash a girl for her sexuality: "slut shaming."

The only problem here is that she's in a relationship and needs to be put within the boundaries of one and the TC needs to do so.


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That is not a girl you build a relationship with!

Either she's that slutty, or being directly disrespectful.
Perhaps even that ignorant.
Junk.
Girl talks about sex....so she's a slut?

One of the founding PUA principles is that we can't bash a girl for her sexuality: "slut shaming."

The only problem here is that she's in a relationship and needs to be put within the boundaries of one and the TC needs to do so.
So you quoted it, and still got it wrong.

OH NO, the 'PUA' cops will be up my ass for sure!

Look Bro, I have nothing against sluts at all, they provide a great service.

Let me clear it up all nice and shit: This girl is currently not -and may never be-relationship material.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:10 pm 
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That is not a girl you build a relationship with!

Either she's that slutty, or being directly disrespectful.
Perhaps even that ignorant.
Junk.
Girl talks about sex....so she's a slut?

One of the founding PUA principles is that we can't bash a girl for her sexuality: "slut shaming."

The only problem here is that she's in a relationship and needs to be put within the boundaries of one and the TC needs to do so.
So you quoted it, and still got it wrong.

OH NO, the 'PUA' cops will be up my ass for sure!

Look Bro, I have nothing against sluts at all, they provide a great service.

Let me clear it up all nice and shit: This girl is currently not -and may never be-relationship material.
I was in a relationship with a girl for three years who, at the start, would not shut the fuck up about her past relationship, as well as sexually. I was also in a relationship with others that could also not stop the verbal diarrhea about her exes. The former was a sweetheart and the latter was a poisonous bitch, but both had the same defect at the start, so I come to the conclusion that it is meaningless. Why do they speak about it? I guess it just poisons their psyche more than the male's; they like to spill their guts morel. Does that alone mean they're not relationship material? No. They simply just need to be told to "shut the fuck up about your ex, I don't give a damn."

So now that you made your empty statement clear......and shit, you can tell me *why* you think this makes a girl unsuited for a relationship and damned forever to be alone...


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So now that you made your empty statement clear......and shit, you can tell me *why* you think this makes a girl unsuited for a relationship and damned forever to be alone...
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when I get mad about her reminding it, that doesn't change anything.
Apparently telling her to "Shut the fuck up" isn't working.

Let me fill in the emptiness for you.

The point of all of this is to demonstrate that you don’t have to put up with anything that you feel is unacceptable. If you’re like me and you don’t want to spend 10 minutes having an annoying conversation about her gobbling some other dudes cock, then don't fucking put up with it!

If you want to put up with it, hey fine by me!
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you can tell me *why* you think this makes a girl unsuited for a relationship and damned forever to be alone...
I said "currently".

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Fair enough, then I agree more than words are necessary. Either he has to combat her psychologically by getting even, or offer her an ultimatum and leave, or just leave.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:29 pm 
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I've always had my girlfriends for quite a while, and naturally, past things come up. Like we visit some place or watch a movie and it suddenly reminds her of an ex. No big deal, really. Altough I've never really had a girl bring up the sexual shit she did with her ex. I don't think that's healthy. She has to be an idiot to think you care about that. Either her mental capabilities are limited or she does it to piss you off. Or she might still have strong feelings for the ex, and that's why she can't shut the hell up about his cock. Anyway, I can see no way that I would want to be in a relationship with this girl, whichever the case is.

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If you go completely mind game free you will end up with someone that there is compatibility but there won't be any passion or any feelings to keep you together. Just a good friendship with sex.
I respectfully disagree. Or we have different concepts of what mind games are. Because, in my book, mind games are the tools of women, and the tools of a man who is not trusted/respected enough by his girlfriend for her to follow him. You can not win mind games against women. You win them by not playing.

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