Hey everyone!

As can be read in my other threads I'm struggling with a girl. I'd like to focus on some special questions I've had for a while now. I'll shortly explain the circumstances to make things more understandable.

The girl is in a long distance relationship. Relationship has lasted for 3-4 years until she moved. She has been living in my town for 2 years now. We've got to know each other 1 year ago. We've had ups and downs. One down in the past winter forced me to talk to her. She explained me she wanted friendship only from the beginning on. A while after our contact got more and more intense, also physically.

I'd like to talk about some things from that past I'd consider to be IOIs. I'd like to know your opinion on it, especially on how to behave to either learn from my mistakes or see what I can still work with.

1.) With her for the first time I had the feeling I was doing things better then with other women before. Without knowing about the community back than I felt like playing a solid game. She seemed attracted to me. After 2 weeks I would massage her from time to time and she would sort of call me a player. Here comes my first question:
Do you consider this to be an IOI? How can I benefit from that? Any particular behavior or SPAM in that case?
Particular situation: I massage her in her kitchen. She moans how good it feels. Then she says something like.. "I just want to know which number I am." After a short pause... "No I'm kidding.."
I later thought of reaction that might have been effective: "You are no number. But of those who were no numbers you're number 3." Any other suggestions? Was it the right time for a move?
After a while I stepped into some traps. I noticed how she was less attracted to me. A year later know she either doesn't believe me to be a player anymore or has to think I've fallen for her so much that I'm not into playing other women any more.
Have I missed a chance? Can I still benefit from what she considered me to be in the past?

2.) After a month her mum was about to visit her in her new place. She would invite me to have coffee with them. I went, feeling like being introduced to her. I was pleased, we had a great day and finally her mum left us to be alone. IOI? Wrong move to go?

3.) She would play footsie with me, stroking my leg really gently under a table in a restaurant, while being surrounded by lots of our friends and colleagues. I enjoyed and didn't show I noticed, just like she did. Opinions?

This comes after our talk where I revealed myself.

4.) We talked about sex a little bit. She would already admit she was having fun in the shower once in a while. After hesitating a bit she would tell me she had a vibrator, back home though. She would also tell me she's able to squirt.
Situation: We were lying on my carpet, she massaged me. I asked her more details about her squirting, she explained. Her voice sounded a bit like she was struggling if she wanted to tell me, or if it was to intimate. She did though.
In the end I said something like "I'm still not sure if it's real.." negging her. She answered "You will see." English is neither my nor her mother language - not sure how to read this.. How do i react in that case?

In general my attraction on her seems to go up and down. I know I can improve and hope I can still work with some of the stuff. If this a best-friend case I hope I can learn from my mistakes for the future..

Cheers, reas0n

Sounds like you're in love already..

Just ask her out for a private drink already, escalate and see what happens...

You really need to put yourself out there and chase some other girls so that this chick is not your pride and soul of your love life

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True that. Yes I'm currently working on accepting that thought.
Can you still help me to learn from my former mistakes?

Do you consider 4.) to be a shit test? I reacted like not really caring. I was just showing her a song that I liked while she massaged me. After 2 or 3 seconds I would say "Awesome tune, right?". She responded sarcastically "Yeah... Now that you've asked me about squirting I listened to the tune of course..". Did I do rather well? May I have got more out of the situation?

Taking too long you need to fuck her already period end of story.

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Even if thats true it won't help me. I'm asking for doing the right things in the future - either with her or someone else.

His post still stands for future too

The longer you wait, the less likely you will fuck her

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#4. She's letting you know she squirts.
She obviously want you to make her squirt.
Do it

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man, if it was that easy... probably i missed that moment (now i'm working on building up attraction again since she put some effort in treating me like a friend for the last 2 weeks), probably i survived a shit test. i would have, if she wasn't in a serious relationship. i still don't know how to play this game. that's why i'm asking you to give me some clues and learn from the past actions here. how might i have taken benefit from those moments? any ideas?
i can imagine this to be true. do you believe i missed some great chances? or does it sound to like there wasn't much to get out of the situations? i'd like to understand all of your thoughts better.

cheers

do you even troll bro?

The sex boat left 3 weeks ago. You missed it.

Get your dick out next time. It really is that easy.

it really was that easy if she didn't have a boyfriend or if at least we haven't been talking seriously about our feelings half a year ago.

but i felt she was attracted to me one year ago when i met her (there was something going on for a couple of weeks) and i felt she was attracted to me recently. i'm pretty sure i was able to build the attraction up again but still lacking skills to handle this situation. and why i will try to get better with women in general i'll still try to build up the attraction again.

get your dick out.. ok, it's not that easy for me at least. what do you guys do in that situation 4.)? me being massaged, having her explaining something about her orgasm?

Wherever she is massaging you, move her hands onto the hard bulge in your underwear and get her to massage you there instead.

man, does this work more then 3 times out of 10?

You just need to be more persistent and stop waiting for the girl to make all the moves. As a man, it is your responsibility to make sex happen.

Stop being submissive and grow some balls.