Pua promises those who learn it a more abundant amount of woman and a way to work on your life. I think Pua's should have something to show for after all their work and dedication. IMO it's ones journey and path to be a better man. What should a better man have?

A better appearance (a good body, followed by fashion)
A great lifestyle (money, financial security - a nice car, great place to live)
And obviously more woman, intelligence and social skills, etc., etc...

But what I'd like to focus on are the first two.
How can someone be financially stable in today's world. This personally is the biggest issue in my life. I want to be able to travel, and live comfortably... Yet I can't due to lack of funds. For some money is scarce, yet for others they have so much they don't know where to put it. Now I'm NOT talking about being a millionaire -- that's rare and not something I'm interested at the moment, but get if you know how to do that share it, ha.

I'm speaking to the successful people on this forum that have money, so if your in dire straits you can chime in but it's mostly directed towards people who are living a better lifestyle.

So TELL ME, don't tell me how possible it is, literally give me and everyone who's looking to improve themselves a plan. How can someone achieve a financially stable life

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I'm a 22 year old with less than 3 year's work experience, so take it as you will but

I think this sort of thing (a good career) is built on over time. What sort of work are you in?

Thanks for your response. I'm a musician but I'd also be passionate about business.

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I have more money than average, but that's not what makes me attractive to girls. I also have old friends who are really poor, at the bottom of society, who are still very successful with women (not PUAs though). So money are obviously not the issue. But there is one important difference between me and my friends when it comes to women, and it's what kind of women we attract.

As they belong to the working class, or even below that, they attract working class girls... And I belong to the middle class and attract middle class girls. I have tried to attract girls who are above my league in terms of social status, without any results. Lesson learned? Look for girls in the same situation as you.

I would have to agree with certain aspects of having a better life being built over time. A career for example. It's not something that you just start but something that's built over time and allows room for promotions as well as room to grow in other areas as well.

As far as the other more materialistic things, such as the car, home furniture, and all that, I would say it doesn't really matter as long as you keep things reasonably clean.

It's different around the world. Here in Ireland our standard of living is much higher across the board than most other countries(One of the highest in the world). We have free healthcare but high taxes. We have decent wages(I believe average is €35,00-€40,000 a year which is $55,000) but it also costs a lot to live here. Our education is some of the best and it's cheap across all levels of education(Primary, secondary and College/University level). So our education in a college or university level is €2,500 for registration fees(Per year ~ roughly €10,000 for a completed degree of four years) and around 5 to 6 thousand for private colleges(Per year). This means we basically have great education and don't have to pay massive bills if we're struck down with an illness.

If you rent an apartment or house by yourself over here you're looking at rent of €1,000-€1,300 per month for a decent area and decent apartment/house in or near the city with bus routes, trains and trams nearby. Most people under 30 will be sharing however so you'll have a double room each for about €550-€600 each per month which makes moving in with a good mate you can head out with perfect.

Bills are generally cheaper than in the states, at least for internet. We get good packages where we get telephone, internet and TV for about €50-70 per month which includes 50-100MB broadband and digital TV(100+ channels as basic). Electricity bills vary but you should expect roughly €100-150 per person every two months or so. Most places also include internet and TV with the rent.

So, in Ireland, you're looking at €700 max per month on housing, TV/Internet and Electricity(100-150 split by 2). You should be making minimum €2,000 per month(on €24,000 per year income) so you're left with €1,300 a month for food and other expenses. Honestly, you'll probably be looking at around €500 on food and drink a month, maybe a lot less depending on what you eat and how much you eat and drink. You'll have €800 a month to save up and do whatever you want. Also, keep in mind you get taxed at 25% when you're under the €35,000 bracket and 40% for whatever you make over €35,000. On 24k you'll take home €1,500 per month and spend €700 per month on housing and internet/tv. Also, it's worth mentioning we're in the EU which means we get cheap flights anywhere in Europe(You'll literally get a flight to Barcelona for €35) and we have hostels(Do Americans have this?) where you basically stay in shared rooms for €20-40 a night depending on the place. Some hostels are nice, others not so much. It's all shared but extremely cheap for those on the go!

In the states you guys get fucked in the ass two ways from Sunday. Massive insurance bills because there is no alternative -- you literally have to pay for it or be left on the streets dying should you get sick -- insanely costly healthcare system and college/university costs you about as much as it would to buy a house. No wonder it's hard for you guys to have a decent living if you don't make $40k or more a year.

Basically you'll have an easier time having expendable income outside of the US if you're in an entry level job(€24,000 minimum). Lifestyle is all down to you... Appearance doesn't cost much. Most of it is not stuffing your face and doing light exercises to keep toned, shit you can do at home for ten minutes a day. Abundance is all about your mentality and, for me, PU helped me tremendously. It helped me in not being afraid to talk to women or take shit too seriously if things don't go well. I've had a bunch of dates, closes and all sorts with ups and downs because of what I learned in my time as a "PUA" and i've extended this to my entire lifestyle to friends, work, college, family, confidence, appearance, everything. It's helped me be more confident and outgoing while retaining my core values(A moral choice of my own). I'm nothing like an MPUA and I honestly wouldn't consider myself a PUA because I just learned how to incorporate a few techniques into my persona and became confident in who I am and not take shit too seriously when a chick isn't into me and just move on. It's been the best life lesson I could have learned.

Financial stability? If you get the answer then you'll make a fortune

I read somewhere that you should treat saving money like trying to lose weight. Instead of knowing where every calorie goes you need to know where every £/$ goes.

I know pretty much what bills I need to pay every month and I know near enough how much money I'm going to earn. I take off the bills, I take off something for savings, whatever is left I divide by 4 and that's what I have to spend each week. I track EVERYTHING I spend on an app on my phone that tells me how much of my weekly allowance is left. If it runs out before the end of the week I go hungry (you only make that mistake once).

It takes discipline but it keeps me financially stable.

Other tips:

- buy less and buy better. One expensive, well made item beats a dozen pieces of made in China crap
- become vegetarian. Cheap veggie food is a LOT better than the cheap shit meat that supermarkets sell. I can make three days quality food for what it costs for one day of not very good meat. I'm still a carnivore, just not at home.
- cut alcohol
- quit smoking
- make use of Ebay. Good for very good clothes if you want to put in the work

Financial stability means a little bit of pain until you get used to it. After a couple of months you don't even notice it. Seriously, the quality of my life has gone up since I started being REALLY careful with money. After six months of spending less I've got a better life.

But don't be a martyr with it. Life is for enjoying.