quite honestly telling the guy he was being a jerk etc, that sort of thing only frlies from the "parental" person Ie, supervisor, boss, mom dad, these are people who have weight in your life. imagine telling a girl shes being a jerk to you and shes not your girlfriend.

people hate being told their wrong, and they only accept it from people off importance

you may want my advice, he is no alpha. alphas plain and simple dont give a fuck. he has the perception of an alpha , ur making him an alpha.

he thinks your an easy target.
if i got my eye brows waxed and someone said dude and tried to make fun of me i would literally say.

'yeah, sickone fuck wit' if he reacted id just fuck wit him, no matter what he said id ask him if he likes the eye brows, then if he likes me, then still regardless of what he says id say, 'sooooooo?, are you going to suck my dick, or?'

you dont want to treat him like hes alpha i assure you ignore him is what parents and teachers say because they have there own shit to deal with and dont want to tell people they are bona have to nut up, because that involved helping you out with your issues that they dont care about.

act as if you know something about you that he doesnt that makes you better.

I literally destroyed this girls shit test and had her drooling to suck my penis, what kind of car do you drive, I looked at her laughing like I didn't give a fuck about what she thought because I have one of the biggest penises on the planet and I said ,'' have you ever seen one of those really small beetle bug cars it gets great gass mileage'' then me and her started laughing together and then she was hugging and kissing all up on me

Okay.

I can see how that behaviour would come across jerky, but this guy has a history of trying to tool me in front of crowds (he's far from impressive if you try to deal with him one-on-one), and I didn't really like to give him the satisfaction. I think sitting in my chair like that was in his mind a way to expose me to social embarrassment because I would find it difficult to deal with him in that situation (like I said, he thrives in front of a crowd, I do well in one-on-one). So I already had that perception that he would try to tool me no matter what I did, so I tried to deal with it in as discreet a way as possible. The feedback I'm getting here is that the way I dealt with it would not have gone down well, and I accept that. I'm not meaning to be disingenuous, I'll be honest and say that I found the situation difficult, and that the fact I found the situation difficult would have been well known to the guy in question.

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Well, if that's the case: fuck that dude.

Upon him telling you what he said, I would probably said something like "Yep, exactly. Now, slag off." Since, I'm not from the UK, it sounds funny coming from an American, and the crowd might have ate it up. If you are from the UK, then instead of "Slag off", I'd have just snapped my fingers and give him the thumb signal to "beat it" in a funny way.

Chances are it would upset him, but you look like the funny guy, and if he gets bent out of shape, he DLVs.

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He can be alright but he sees himself as the unquestioned alpha of the group. E.g. when I tried tooling him, his response was not to tool me back in a friendly way, but to say "we're not listening to you [my name], none of us are"

Given that he supervises the warehouse and I work in the office, which is where we were at the time, I wasn't too amused by it. The office give the warehouse their orders so having him speaking on behalf of my colleagues saying that THEY weren't going to listen to me was a bit much.

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kick his ass. make him look stupid. call him out when he messes up. respond with one liners of your own. ask him why he is always checking out your physical features. the list goes on but you have to turn the attention back on him.

this guy is right. A true alpha doesn't single out members of his group (work). He doesn't harass people or make them look weak. A true alpha has too much dignity for this behavior.

The guy has a recognition issue. In my opinion, he thinks you are better than him somewhere and envy you for that ---- or you really look like the school nerd that gets his ass kicked by everyone (it's okay if you are, I almost was one).

Anyway, in my opinion he is not an alpha male at all. Just a psychologically disturb sad person that seek for something. This thing is the thing you need to control him.

-- Here is my plan for you, start from Zero to the end, stop as soon as he stops --

0 - retrospect yourself
See what you have better than him, what he got better than you. Do a SWOT analysis of the guy and of yourself as well. You need to know yourself before analysing others. Understand yourself and others in order to control things. That would help for all three different plans. Always know your enemy.

0.5 - Help him to give him what he doesn't have
I know you hate the guy, but put your feelings aside. Help him to get what he desires the most, he will eat in your hand when he will get by himself but thanks to you.


-- That should fix your issue. If not, do what a logical person would do --

1 - ignore him
Stop smiling bro!!!!! You are encouraging him by doing this. It's like "I think it is funny when you are clowning me, please carry on". So stop that, don't give him any credit when he is doing this. Treat him like the fly in the office that you never seen.

-- if after couple weeks it doesn't stop, then do this --

2 - do a 1-on-1 talk
Tell him what you feel, try to make him feel that little kid at school that takes all the shit on him from others, make him feel that it is not right and that he should stop. It has to come from him, so ask him question to make it go having that final conclusion which should be: "I think you are right, it is inappropriate to talk to you like this". But do not make him feel that by stopping he will make you a favour. You go to him to make him a favour as he could lose his job for acting like this. He should feel lucky that you have a sense of professionalism and you act smarter than him by taking the lead on this issue.

-- if he carries on... --

2 - Talk to HR
Let the HR knows, at this point you are being professional, there is an issue in your work, you want to fix it because this impact your efficiency and represent a pollution. So go green! But, calmly, let him know you go to HR as at this point he is aware of the problem as you shared it with him in previous plan. He will respect you from letting him know before and will actually try to say "come on... I'm sorry okay? don't do that". Do not listen to him and carry on. Make him begging you to not go. Unless he begs you like a pussy, just go to HR and ask her to make him stop whatever it takes for the sake of the productivity. Make sure they will go threat him because this is the only "how" he will stop, else then rollback and tell them to not do anything about it. And (only) if he asks you, tell him that you thought about twice and you wanted to give him a second chance.

-- if he carries on after HR talked to him and threaten him and you can't stand to ignore him anymore --

3 - confront him in front of a group he cares about
Best is to ignore again.... but... If you really can't ignore him because other people are witnessing your clowning moment, then give him lots of importance. Not from you, but from people. Confront him to his own game and destroy him. Maybe this is too advance actually, but if you're good at "poker face" then wear the chinese one (the worst one, the one you can't tell what you think) and go deeper in his thoughts and clownings. Ask him "what else?", "tell us more?", "interesting... why do you say that?", "oh really?". You have to be seeking for more information and making few foot steps toward him in order to subconstiously "challenge him" in front of the group. As an Alpha, he will have to answer your questions and give you more info, and at some point (I believe very soon) he will run out of content and start to justify himself, lose his confidence in front of the group, start to get nervous, he will probably get angry at you, but don't get affected to it. Just look at him right in the eyes, don't break eyes contact or remove your poker face. Don't say anything except reacting to his clownings. You have to get the confidence that you left behind on day 1 with him in order to stand right in the middle of the group with everyone looking at you. He will start giving you something, and something else, and something else, just empty that piece of shit of all of his shit, let it flow... when he runs out, he will feel stupid, will have nothing to say. So let him loose his shit, whatever the output of this, whatever if he gets mad, angry, shouts, punches you or whatever... he will at some point loose his shit in front of the group if you stand and act like you expect something from him. He will try to reverse the situation to his advantage, at that point he will need control to go back to his confort zone. He will be asking you questions (don't pay attention to them, don't reply! ignore!). It is crucial that you do not lose your shit! Be a man, and stand! Prove the group that you are a better person than him by just being smarter. That awkward moment can last from 20 seconds to 5min. Be ready for it if you go for it.

PS: if you opt for that last step confrontation, do that in front of more than 5 people, else it won't worth it. Best remains ignorance again.

Hope that helps

Why are we replying to this topic? Someone lock the thread, the OP issue has been solved already.

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are you saying I've written all of that for nothing? Jeez.. didn't realise there were more than one page.

lol just back turn or something and start talking to the whole group and make him look like complete shit. If you do that hes gonna constantly try to get back into the group and look desperate. At that point you win. But make sure u are the one leading the group and not him in discussions when u do this.

What I would do is call him out on it when you're alone with him. You said he doesnt insult you when you're alone...he a chump. Make it clear that you think hes a douche bag. If you think you can kick his ass then let him know you're going to if it doesnt stop.