Had a first date with a girl I met online. It went really well we chatted for ages and had quite a few drinks. She said she was having a good night and said it a few times. We sat close together but I never found an opportunity to kiss her. I'm now kicking myself I wish I just went in for a kiss but I'm i can be a bit shy on a first date. What shall I do to avoid being in the friends zone. We parted ways and I said I would really like to see her again and she said she was too. I've been friend zoned a lot of times and really worried this will go the same way. What would you recommend for a second date? I was thinking the cinema.

Thanks for reading.

Hey man. I know what you mean.

I would just leave it alone for A few days...

then come back and ask her for another date.



But yeah the longer you wait the more she might lose interest

so just ask her to hang out after A few days or whenever you can.



I have A routine on here somewhere that details the step by step

way to get A girl on A date and then get laid that same night.

I am honestly just to lazy to pull it up.

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I've been there.

You've gotta get Kino going. Kino can start with a hi-5. If a girl starts to talk about what she does, I say "wait, let me guess what you do" and then I say "brick layer?". I grab her hands and run my fingers over them as though I was looking for callouses. Just keep saying things that give you reason to touch her.

Just work it into the conversation and as you're talking about something touch her on the arm, shoulder, etc. Play games with her and put your arm on her back. When you're walking down the street and cross the road put your arm around her to guide her when to cross. You start small and build it up. When she's talking I sometimes move her hair out of her face. Whatever. Eventually she will be used to you touching her and you can then be more obvious. I might run my hand along her back whilst talking about something boring etc. Read up a bit on the best way to kiss close, there are so many ways.

Going to the movies/cinema on a second date is a bad idea, especially for someone like you. You want to do something fun, talk and interact.

If I were you at this point I would try some good text game. Never ask any questions, just statements. Be playful, funny, tease, and work in sexual innuendos. Then arrange a second meetup. Read up on text game before you do anything

Good luck.

Thanks for the advice. Problem I have is that I'm on holiday from Wednesday for a week so I'm hoping to meet her on Tuesday night this week I know in the past I've had girls lose interest quickly. I thought about the cinema as we went for drinks on the first date so want to mix it up can't think what else to do for a night activity. Was thinking we could go for a coffee before to chat. My text game is not great. She even admitted to me last night she is not much of texter but more of someone who speaks on the phone. I've only just went on the first date last night I think calling tonight might be a bit soon but I do have arrange a date for Tuesday night. As you can tell I really like this girl we instantly got on.

Just wanted to give an update. I text her last night and asked if she wanted to go out this week. I've still had no response Looks like I've messed things up again. Ah well another one to add to the list.

If you are sitting close to her, she is touching her hair or you, and looking you in the eyes or mouth, you know you are in. Like the guys above me said, you need to start Kino. Also, lead her into by asking her if she is a good kisser or some stupid shit like that. Talk to her about kissing and sex, combine this with kino and the kiss will come very naturally. You might find that you didn't have a opportunity to kiss her because you didn't make one. You would be surprised how easy it is to kiss a girl right after you talk to her about seeing a cute couple kiss or something.

thanks for the advice.She was touching her hair and making eye contact. I've never kissed a girl on a first date it's always been the second or third. I feel like if you kiss on the first date it could go wrong and it's a bit of gamble as you don't know her yet. In this case I really should have kissed her.

I asked her out one day this week and she said she invited friends round for dinner so couldn't make it but was sorry. I asked her if she wanted to meet up next week instead as I'm away on holiday towards the end of the week. I haven't had a reply yet. I'm getting an impression she is losing interest. I really need to bring her back. She was really nice and we got along so well. She seemed interested when we met but i'm worried because I didn't kiss her she is put off.

What can I do now? I don't want this to be another mess up I want to get the girl for once! I've always gone out with girls who were into me and I was into them. I've never got the girl I liked.

Well it sounds like you need to freeze her out. Back off for 5-7 days. If she contacts you, reply but seem busy. spend the next few days researching how display high value. Learn patterns, stories, get rich, whatever just do it. When you do initiate contact again, display your newly acquired high value.

Thanks for the reply, this girl is really nice and I'm worried I won't find another girl like her so I need to try my best. Have you got any suggestions how to display high value? Or any stories I can tell?

Thanks moose.

Has anyone else got advice on this? she still hasn't text back. I don't want to text just yet as this will come off as desperate and needy.

will you see her again in the day-to-day?

I'm away on holiday and won't be back home till next Tuesday night. My last text asked if she wanted to meet up when I'm back but I haven't had a reply. I won't be seeing her day to day. What do you think is my next step? I really need to win this girl over!

What shall I do? still no reply yet from the girl

I asked how her weekend was and I got a reply, so I guess she is still talking to me. How do I win her over?

you acted beta. she lost interest. all you had to do was to kino and k close. so easy.

anyway, just stay away for a while and then act like nothing happen and start escalating things again. she might pick up from where you blow it.