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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:03 pm 
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Hey guys,

Just wrote an interesting article here:
100 Scientific Reasons to NOT Eat Meat

Wanted to get some input on the article and your thoughts on eating meat. Good, bad, or who cares?


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I going to inform our ancestors that hunting those pigs and chickens were a big mistake that we would be paying for ;P

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I've been vegetarian for 1½ years (funny thing is I've gained weight ever since) due to ethical reasons but I've become more health-aware because a relative got cancer so I read tons of literature on that. And all the literature on cancer and cardiac disease said the same thing: stop eating red meat, and go veggie. Red meat is basically bad for you on many different levels.

If you don't want to become a vegetarian, at least stop eating red meat and just go with chicken and fish. Better yet, stop eating meat completely and give the animals a chance. Their condition in the industry is disgusting even on the most civilized level. In Sweden (one of the presumably more nice-to-animals-countries) a few pigs were cooked alive last year by our leading meat company, and a few of them didn't die.

Just a my five cents. :)


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Not eating meat is a decision, eating meat is an instinct.
That's a common misconception. If you put a raw steak next to a baby it won't eat it. Kids won't go after wild rabbits, catch them with their hands and eat them raw (skeleton and all). Just because we find meat tasty and juicy - and I do too, I promise - doesn't mean it's an instinct. We feel good drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes too, says nothing about our instincts.

A cool fact is that about 3 weeks eating vegetarian food is enough for your taste buds to forget about the taste of meat. You stop missing the taste of bacon, steaks with garlic butter and hamburgers after those three weeks. This actually happened to me too and I was surprised when I was at my friend's house and didn't feel any hunger when he was cooking bacon in the kitchen. :o

Eating meat is learned when we are kids. Ever heard of a meat eater going sick because he suddenly begins eating a shitload of vegetables? No? Well, this is on the contrary super-common among vegetarians who begins eating meat all of a sudden, they go sick because their bodies have adopted to a healthy diet.

Each to his own but I'm pretty well read-up on this stuff. And the best honest advice I can give to everyone who'd like to live longer and stay healthy: stop eating red meat and focus on fish and chicken (not fried...) if you don't feel comfortable going all the way. Also eat tons of raw fruits and vegetables because they contain fibers that cleans out your body and vitamins that boosts your immune system. :wink:


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Hey guys,

Just wrote an interesting article here:
100 Scientific Reasons to NOT Eat Meat

Wanted to get some input on the article and your thoughts on eating meat. Good, bad, or who cares?
Great article! :P Will pass it forward.

I just changed my mind as I kept reading the article. It's not great, it's amazing. Really humble and honest and helpful towards both carnists and vegetarians alike, and I actually learned a lot from it. I really think you did a wonderful job. Again, I will be passing this forward because this is in the Yourofsky department of inspiration.


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I've been vegetarian for 1½ years (funny thing is I've gained weight ever since) due to ethical reasons but I've become more health-aware because a relative got cancer so I read tons of literature on that. And all the literature on cancer and cardiac disease said the same thing: stop eating red meat, and go veggie. Red meat is basically bad for you on many different levels.

If you don't want to become a vegetarian, at least stop eating red meat and just go with chicken and fish. Better yet, stop eating meat completely and give the animals a chance. Their condition in the industry is disgusting even on the most civilized level. In Sweden (one of the presumably more nice-to-animals-countries) a few pigs were cooked alive last year by our leading meat company, and a few of them didn't die.

Just a my five cents. :)
I don't care about how the animals are treated. They are my food.

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no. it isn't.


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If we have to believe all those study's you can't eat shit. :x


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If we have to believe all those study's you can't eat shit. :x
Literally?????? :(

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Not eating meat is a decision, eating meat is an instinct.
That's a common misconception. If you put a raw steak next to a baby it won't eat it.
Seriously? I doubt if you put a tofu bar next to a baby it would eat that either! Fuck!

Everything you consume can be bad for you if you consume in access.
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Man 'Overdoses' On Brussels Sprouts -- But You Should Still Eat Your Greens!
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-We Have Been Designed by Evolution to Eat Meat and Other Animal Foods.

-Meat is Incredibly Nutritious.

-(Unprocessed) Meat Doesn't Raise Your Risk of Cardiovascular Disease or Diabetes.

-Meat Contains High Quality Protein, Which is Crucial For The Function of Muscles and Bones.

-There is Only a Very Weak Correlation With Cancer, Which May be Due to Overcooking (char), NOT the Meat Itself.

-There Are No Proven Health Benefits to Avoiding Meat, only misleading propaganda, trumped up by candy ass bunny/squirrel huggers, raised by single drugged out hippy mothers. That while pregnant watched "Bambi'" tripping on LSD.

- Meat Tastes Incredibly Fucking Good!
Steak, roast chicken, lamb chops…BACON!!!! Nuff said.

Is there fuck-tards out in the world inhumanly killing animals at slaughter? Yes!

But does that stop you from drinking that chilly glass of processed milk coming from the bloody teats of that poor over sucked cow, rammed into it's milking rack?

I just dipped my Chips Ahoy cookie in some.

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Kids won't go after wild rabbits, catch them with their hands and eat them raw (skeleton and all). Just because we find meat tasty and juicy - and I do too, I promise - doesn't mean it's an instinct.
Nah. When my daughter was around 2 years old, she would grab one of my pet rabbits and tried to bite some of them on a few occasions. Babies will try to taste and/or bite anything that they get their hands on most specially when their teeth are beginning to grow.

I fed her an olive once when she was a baby and she spit it out. I let her chew on a small chunk of t-bone steak garnished in salted butter and garlic powder and she kept on sucking on it with pleasure.

Raise a baby and see for yourself. There's a reason why toxic things are kept out of reach of children.

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this is going really offtopic. but I would like to make some things clear.
it all resumes to the way you were raised. feral child do go after pray and eat raw meat.
eating meat is very natural. and it's an important part of the human diet. it has been like this for millions of years. it won't change now. and no it isn't bad whatsoever. it's very good and healthy when consumed with a balanced diet. it is not recommended that you stop eating meat.


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Not eating meat is a decision, eating meat is an instinct.
That's a common misconception. If you put a raw steak next to a baby it won't eat it.
Seriously? I doubt if you put a tofu bar next to a baby it would eat that either! Fuck!
Everything you consume can be bad for you if you consume in access.
I'm a vegetarian and I think tofu is disgusting. Kids like fruit though. Maybe because it tastes sweet, which is because it is healthy - that's why we get addicted to sugar, it tricks us that it's healthy. It's not.

Sweet tastes taste good because it's an indicator of healthy food (like fruit and berries), that's simply how we biologically work. The other side of the coin is bitter tastes which is an indicator of poisnous food, such as unedible berries. Ya don't need to trust ME on this, it's just biology. You can look it up yourself.

Put a raw steak next to a baby (yeah, RAW meat because we're omnivores/carnivores, right?) and I'll give you a thousand bucks if you can make him eat it. Now put some mashed banana/apple/strawberry next to a baby and it will eat it with pleasure. This is science, so let's all sit back and relax a bit and not get feisty. :o

-We Have Been Designed by Evolution to Eat Meat and Other Animal Foods.
Nope. We've been "designed" by our culture. Actually, when your body breaks down the animal flesh you put inside your body it has to extract chemicals from your bones in order to break it down. That's not good - and not much in common with any other omnivore species. You know in school when you found out your intestines are about ten times your length? That's cool and all, but did you also know why they're that long? It's because we're designed to break down fiber-rich food like plants and fruit, like all other herbivores. Omni- and carnivores have MUCH shorter intestines because they don't need all that distance to break down their food. Fascinating as fuck.

-Meat is Incredibly Nutritious.
Nuh-uh. Meat contains fats, protein and a bit iron. But it contains little to none vitamins, fibers or antioxidants crucial to keep a healthy immune system and toxic-free body. On the other hand, meat contains a shitload of IGF-1 which has been identified to induce cancer. That's part of the reason why you shouldn't eat raw meat at all, and why cancer patients are recommended to stay off red meat. Trust me, I've red a couple of books on this subject.

Vegetarians have a lower risk of getting cardio diseases and a higher chance of beating cancer, by about 30% respectively. I'll hook you up on some source material and literature if you want to read more about this. :)

So, nah, meat isn't very nutritious. The only vitamin a vegan lacks for choosing not to consume meat is vitamin B12 - that's it. Speaking for myself, I was sick all the time while eating meat (I got the cold every two months or so). After becoming vegetarian I've only had the cold two times of the course of 1½ years. That's mind boggling to me.

-(Unprocessed) Meat Doesn't Raise Your Risk of Cardiovascular Disease or Diabetes.
-Meat Contains High Quality Protein, Which is Crucial For The Function of Muscles and Bones.
Who told you that, bro? :P That's nonsense.

-There is Only a Very Weak Correlation With Cancer, Which May be Due to Overcooking (char), NOT the Meat Itself.
IGF-1 is a hormone that's commonly agreed causes cancer, and it exists in all animal products, cooked or uncooked. Also, the fats in animal food is not healthy and can induce increased production of estrogens (you know, female hormone) which is a serious cause for cancer - that's why breast cancer gets more and more common as we consume more and more meat according to several studies. There were extremely few cases of breast cancer in Japan before asian culture became americanized and they began eating pizza and hamburgers instead of vegetables and fish - cancer cases and cardiovascular diseases have increased in asia ever since. :(

Cancer cases is, on the other hand, extremely rare in india. You know why? Yep, you guessed it, because India is a mostly vegetarian country. And they eat a lot of curry which is contains cancer inhibitive substances.

-There Are No Proven Health Benefits to Avoiding Meat, only misleading propaganda, trumped up by candy ass bunny/squirrel huggers, raised by single drugged out hippy mothers. That while pregnant watched "Bambi'" tripping on LSD.
Whatever you say. Every vegetarian I've met says they all feel like a million dollars compared to before they became veggie. But I suppose they're all suffering from self-deceiving placebo. I mean, all those extra vitamins, minerals and fibers consumed by eating vegetables, fruits and beans couldn't possibly be good for the body, right? :lol: Yeah about that...

- Meat Tastes Incredibly Fucking Good!
Steak, roast chicken, lamb chops…BACON!!!! Nuff said.

Yeah, I agree 101% on that. Bacon is the fucking shit when it comes to taste. But I tried eating bacon 6 months ago and had to spit it out because the only thing I could taste in my mouth was rotten flesh. :cry:


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Put a raw steak next to a baby (yeah, RAW meat because we're omnivores/carnivores, right?) and I'll give you a thousand bucks if you can make him eat it.
That's misleading. A frozen steak will be painful to touch for the baby some 1 to 2 minutes and will let go. A defrosted bloody steak is a different matter though. The baby is going to lick on the blood for quite some time. If the baby likes the taste, the baby is going to suck on the steak for a long time. The baby is NOT going to chew on the raw steak since his/her teeth are not yet strong enough.

There's a reason why healthy babies feed on milk that comes from a mammal (human or cow) and not milk coming from vegetables. Animals have colostrum; vegetables don't. Milk does not require chewing too.
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-Meat is Incredibly Nutritious.
Nuh-uh. Meat contains fats, protein and a bit iron. But it contains little to none vitamins, fibers or antioxidants crucial to keep a healthy immune system and toxic-free body.
Dude, that is plain misinformation.

For better perspective and comparison, here are the facts and figures:

These are the vitamins and minerals contained in beef: http://www.health-alternatives.com/meat ... chart.html Several are really higher than what the oat meal has.

These are the vitamins and minerals contained in oat meal: http://healthism.blogspot.com/2011/07/v ... -oats.html

These are the vitamins and minerals found in salmon: http://mineralsorvitamins.com/food/salmon/

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