Personally my two favourite books on Natural Game were written by Gambler and Kezia Noble. I think they are both great and their work has helped my game a lot. I was wondering why they had a falling out though and why there was so much resentment between the two? Just curious. What's the story here? Kezia used to work for PUATraining and then what happened?

There could have been problems on who has the bigger

name, brand and reputation in the business. Someone may

be trying to take the other out (business wise.)


Many reasons.

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She broke away from PUA training, and I guess it pissed him off a bit. As far as I know, he discovered her, and taught her a lot of stuff...and then she went away, and set up her own company, probably trading on a lot of the stuff he taught her/discovered.

To be honest, there are loads of rumours out there. I remember seeing something about Kezia Noble replying to someone who claimed that Gambler was staying on former students couch's and stuff. I'm not sure how true that is, as I know PUA training is one of the more successful dating companies about, but I'm not sure where they make most of their money. I think Richard is one of the more likable PUAs about, and a lot of his stuff rings true, although i'm not sure about some of the products he has released recently or the marketing methods he has used for it.

Check Gamblers IamA on reddit, as I think he talks about Kezia and him there.

Another thing I'm aware of is that the companies in PUA at the moment (Love Systems, PUA training, RSD) are a bit like a cartel of sorts, deciding who is allowed in. I think Kezia has been trying to get in for a while, but they don't take her seriously (similar to Mehow). There is a shit load of companies and products about dating these days, but Love systems, PUA training and RSD all seem to offer pretty solid products and advice, so I guess they don't want to be associated with other untested products.

Kezia trades massively on being nice to look at, and writing a dating column in Zoo magazine (British lads magazine) means she probably isn't going to be taken very seriously.

Some of her stuff on conversation, hooks and deep connection is actually pretty good though (if you want a girlfriend and not a ONS), it helped me a lot and I feel it completed Gambler's stuff really well. It's too bad they never wrote a book together, that would have been epic.

I met them both on a PUA training boot camp, she was one of the female "babes" that you would practice your opener on and then they would give you feed back if it was too intense etc.

Anyway, this is typical business stuff. Employee gets to know this business and then ends up being massive competition.

A few little pops back and forth on Facebook/twitter.

Just business.

Gambler makes quite a bit of money I think:
- Think he is good at trading with stocks

- Owns pua training (the quality is going down these days it seems and the cost is going up)

- He has a massive email list. Big money can made there. I think this forum contributes to grow the list, even I spent about £1,500 on his pua university mastery course, so many people on that list may of done the same as me

- He has a team that makes pretty websites that does well.


Kezia makes big money too, Zoo magazine probably helps big time with exposure. She pays her employees very nicely which probably means she is doing well too. She is jewish too so she probably godd with money :p

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