Hey everyone, my name is Ben and I have registered a couple of minutes ago. Good to meet you .

You know, it's incredibly funny how easily you could express and behave when you write and not actually speak the words written. I bet you all, the fat, the muscular the pretty and the ugly could spend hours speaking on SPAM or what ever it is even if you're generally unconfident or just unconfident with that specific girl, for example I don't think that I could introduce myself and speak as candid as I will soon, to so many strangers if it wasn't for the text communication and this is my and I believe many others' problem.

I might've sounded above, like a guy whom is not very social and is very unconfident, but no, I am one of the most liked guys in my school, I am well in shape and good looking, I know that there are plenty of girl friends of mine who would love to sleep with me, and some that are in love with me.

But there's this one girl, one girl that I cramble apart when I see her, I beg you for a solution on this one... Judith is her name, I could talk to her for hours, we go out for jogging, we went out on date (in which I couldn't kiss her because I didn't have the courage..), we meet every day... This was supposed to be easy, but then I fell in love with her, and so did one of my best friends. I want to be with her, I want to kiss her, I want to express myself, I want to be more than her friend... I want to be her boyfriend. But I couldn't do this to my friend before, when I actually had the chance... And I can't do it now.

Some times at home, after thinking at the shower, I swear to God that tomorrow! Tomorrow I kiss her, tomorrow I tell her what I feel. But I never do this, I don't know how to do this, she's in my school and my friend (who loves her) sits next to her and she's always at her class, and when I meet up with her at school... It's in the hall near everyone.

It's not that she doesn't feel the same way towards me, I could tell she does, but maybe I am in euphoria, maybe I am just despert.

What I want to know, is what would you do when you were me? I know I will get the "Go for it man! You got nothing to lose." But please explain in details when and where should I do it and I swear, within these next seven days, I will update you with what has happened, thank you so much in advance

Welcome to the forum, Ben.

You need to put this in perspective: She's an option right now, not your soul mate...

This won't be what you want to hear but I can't see how you or your friend are ACTUALLY in love with this girl (You're still in school, you haven't kissed her or slept with her - how would you even know?)

Sure, you may wind up in love with her if things work out - but let's be realistic for the purposes of helping you out here... You're not with her. You've got a crush. That's it.

You need to do 3 things:

1) Figure this shit out with your friend. If you're both going for the same girl that could get complicated and you'll just sabotage each other. Is she dating him already? Sleeping with him? You don't say. Is she closer with him than you or vice versa?

2) Take her off the pedestal. Her shit stinks too, buddy. She farts. She burps. She has morning breath. She picks her nose. She's not perfect and you must act like your value is higher than hers (not that you're a better person, but that you have a SHIT-TON going for you and any girl would be lucky to date you)...

3) Don't profess your love for her. Seriously, just don't. That's the short-cut to freaking her the fuck out and winding up in the friend zone. Suck it up and kiss her when you're out with her. That's effectively saying you're interested... and not in just being friends.

Good luck, Ben.

I might have exaggerated my feelings for her, that's just what I felt at the moment. In anyway this list got me up and cleared my sight, gracias .

welcome ben,
your friend isn't the problem, but you are, there is no magic button and no one here will provide you one, state of mind it's something need to be worked out through long experience until you could reach to the point girls have no effect on you.
you well said you have no courage, by the way did you know that the word courage is taken from ancient greek language, and it means heart, which defines the base of courage is expressing feelings.

Please realize that you're acting feminine. Yes, you are.

I used to be like that too, "in love" with ONE girl, feeling like both of us running together in the field with birdies and bunnies around us. I don't know if you have seen movies where friends become lovers or the nice guy wins over the girl from a jock, that is NOT reality, trust me.

Don't be fooled by Hollywood or get tooled by society.

Bro's before ho's, to an extent. My first ever girlfriend I hooked up with kind of behind my mates back, everyone including her knew that he liked her, when she asked me out I said I wanted to talk to him first, someone else got to him first though and it almost ended our friendship. Long story short I wasn't with that chick long and he eventually got over that shit, but were the same thing to happen now, instead of waiting a few days to tell my buddy that his dream girl wants my D, just do it straight away, put that shit to bed. Tell your friend you want this girl and make it clear that if he isn't gonna make a move, you are.

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All of these posts were pretty useful and motivational. There are still no news, I am currently filming a movie in which I put all of myself into, the work is immense and my dead line is a week and half ahead.

With that said above, six days from today, I graduate from high school and there's a whole show (in which I am the main actor) going on and I will get this shit together and kiss her at the event, I probably would, if I am ever to catch her without her parents.

As promised, I will update you immediately after the after-party. Much appreciated.

Ow kay, my friendos. As a man of his word, though no longer relevant I will update you concerning the issue I had.

A brief explanation to those who don't know and don't want to read the whole thread, here is the problem: I allegedly, fell for a girl named Judith - I couldn't get her, though we went to a date together, I didn't have the guts to seal the deal.

And today, ten days or more after the thread about my problem was made, I'll share the experience of the... Graduation after party! Mi amigos, the great after party was supposed to be the date in which I, Ben, was going to seal the deal as told. And as you may guess, I didn't, I didn't seal the deal:

We were at the party, she was all gesturing towards me and begging for me to approach her, and so I did, I went to here and we danced a little, then I took her for a walk and we went into this scary ass cabin that was next to the party villa, we sat and she was worried about her friend and said she wanted to keep an eye out for her becuse she was with this guy who is scary. Basicly she didn't show one, simple, attraction hint towards me, maybe she did want me to kiss her and I didn't... we just talked and walked out of there.... I didn't kiss her, I had too much to lose and I am not even in love with her nor do I have a crush for her anymore.






And here's the good part ladies and gentlemen, at that very party, I put myself a goal - "Ben, today if you don't get Judith. You get the hottest girl in school" and here's what's up:

My night started with me getting up last to the bus which was supposed to take us to the after party, I had no seat and I refused to sit on my friends, so I stood, and I stood bravely and looked very good with my suit, literally all of the girls asked me to sit instead of them or upon them, or even volunteered to stand with me but I gently declined and went over to the whom I consider the hottest girl in school and told her "Would you want to sit upon me so I could sit too?" she giggled and said "Yes." the whole ride I was touching her, playing with her hands.. laps and laughing with her and her friend who was on the seat next, we had a very good time and she showed me so many hints of interests.

At the party I purposely didn't pay attention to her and cutted our very short conversations for the favour of other girls, I created myself quality. I was the centre of the party anyway because I was the main actor at the show before, so add this to that .

Anyway, when I went on with Judith for the walk to the cabin she saw us and stopped me, she said "Don't talk to me." and went... So after I returned from Judith and the cabin, I approached her and said, "Are you mad?" not giving her the chance to reply I kissed her, it was very passionate and sexy, everybody was looking, "What the hell are they doing together?" that's what they thought. All the boys texted me after the party and said "You're the king of the party, Ben."

We dropped to the pool and I held her by the butt up and stuck her into the wall of the pool, storking her vagina "mistakely" with my dick. We went out and it was very cold so I covered us both with a towel and took her up to a cabin, where I sealed the deal, fams.

A lot has happened, and way more in detail but I really am tired of writing and bet no one would read it anyway so, I'll beat it to the bed, catch you!