So I was working on some day game (this is probably my third day working on this stuff). I was just working on opening, nothing else, to address anxiety about it (so remove all pressure of trying to close, just get in, open, and get out). After one great success with a group of maybe 8 girls (whoo), I opened these two girls (8's or so) walking the other way. I said 'excuse me ladies can I ask you a question?' and usually people are like 'yeah sure' or 'ok' but the one girl just says very bluntly 'no'. So immediately I remember my body language becoming very sheepish and I looked down the road and was like 'oh' but then I proceeded to ask the question anyway because I didn't know what else to do, and then the other girl was like 'but she said no.' and so I became sort of sheepish again, and then just went on to ask the question. It wasn't awkward but I was definitely in a weak position and they were not really investing in the interaction at all, more like maybe feeling pity for me, if anything other than just being bored with it all.

Question- is this a shit test? Either way, how do I respond if someone says 'no'? I could just walk away, but I think there's gotta be a way to turn the tide so that I'm back in control after something like this. This is exactly the type of set I'd like to be able to work really well; if the people are super nice it's pretty easy!

Some ideas I had are: "oh so you ARE lesbians?"
"Oh, what are you like super models or something?"
"Oh ok fuck you"
"Woooow that's rude" (in which case she'll probably say she doesn't care and I still look like an idiot).
Something non-verbal?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Aaron.

it doesn't seem like it was a shit test. it seems like it was a flat out rejection. this will happen frequently. i would just move on from it. you do not have to ask them to ask the question first, just ask or tell them that you have something to tell them.

If it was really rude and you feel like you have to put them in check, then go ahead and tell them that it was rude. be stern but not confrontational because you do not want to get into an argument.

yes you can get past a little resistance in some circumstances. but sometimes no means no.

You could avoid asking for permission to ask the question, and just ask it, that way you don't get a no.

"I need to ask you all a question, my friend says I should wear skinny pants, but I don't want dudes checking out my ass, what should I do?"

Shittest? Why would a HB shittest you? You are just somebody on the street asking a question. For her, you are just an annoying stranger, standing in her way to work/school. Of course some say no.

Your response makes no sense at all. Are you trying to neg? or to be funny? It is none of both. You are just an agressive and frustated boy, in the view of the HB.

if the HB just says "no" in such a straightforward way it is pure rejection, definitely not a shittest. the best way to handle it is keeping cool with your alpha body language intact and give a mean comeback that's meant only to bitch her out. don't sound defensive or hostile, instead make it seem as if your not offended at all and she just missed out on what would be the best thing to ever happen to her (you). the next step would be to actually not be offended at all and to know for a fact that its her loss and not yours, but this personality could take a while to develop.
if you don't manage to stay cool, and end up sounding hostile and defensive, its ok, because it still puts your game one step above the weak boy who looks at the ground and walks away. after a few times you will definitely get better at staying cool and alpha!

i have to disagree with the dude who said you don't want to get into an argument or a fight. if an HB gives you such a mean rejection she has to be bitched out. yes, doing so will not get you her number but it will make the experience boost up your confidence instead of lowering it.

I don't see a good way of coming out of that "no". I think it's pretty definite. Trying any harder just seems desperate in my opinion. For that reason I don't like to ask "hey can I ask you a question" I just ask the question if I feel like asking a question. First say hey to get their attention, then just ask.

Absolutely. Don't say or do or think any more about it. Treat no as a valid answer, which it is.

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FFS dude. Get over your fucking self. Some girls just aren't interested in you so fucking deal with it you childish prick. As for your cringeworthy Oh so you ARE lesbians and all the other fucking crap you want to say to them, just grow the fuck up. Saying any of those lines back to them just proves that they were right to walk on and ignore you. Christ guys. What the fuck is wrong with you all on here? You win some. You lose some. Get over your fucking selves. Just because you want to ask some girl a Q doesn't mean the whole fucking world has to stop and listen to you. I dread to think what your fucking, childish Q would be .... Go on. Amuse me. Tell me what fucking idiotic line you've got up your childish sleeve.

So an HB saying a firm no needs to be bitched out? Sounds to me like you're the fucking, beta bitch who has to get his own back because she dared to reject your advances. Get a fucking clue ya immature cunt. No one owes you anything. The quicker you learn that the better. It's like who the fuck do you think you are? Some big, alpha male dude? Ha ha. Dream fucking on.

you must have been bullied a lot as a kid and eventually learned that you should just "ignore and walk away and hopefully the jerk will leave you alone" right? so let me give you a little bit of advice on how to deal with shit in the real world: when someone puts you down, whether it is a hot girl, an ugly girl, a guy who's weaker then you or a guy who could kick your ass without even sweating, you get up on your feat and bring it back at em. this is what separates a real man from a pussy. if someone is nice to you be nice to them, if they treat you like shit you don't owe them anything.
so what do you think OP shoulda done? cry and walk away? said "OK sorry for bothering you"? in case you don't know how to read- he didn't ask for the girl's number or for a blowjob, all he did was walk up politely and asked for permission to ask her a question.. saying no was meant for no reason but just being a bitch and look cool in front of her friends. someone like that should get what they deserve, which is deffenitely not kindness!

and you call me an immature cunt? hahahahaahah grow up man, focus on the fact that you don't owe anything to anyone and not on your insacurity that reminds you that "no one owes you anything". once you realize that you'll have more success with women, as well as in anything else you try. or keep being a pussy and let everyone step on you, your choice

This is terrible advice in terms of game. What happens if a bunch of other girls see you bitching out a girl because she said no to you? Or if they didn't even see what happened they just see some guy chewing out a girl? Not alpha. If a girl is this rude to you you have to act like it doesn't matter, and if you're in the right mindset it shouldn't matter to you. You should get a huge grin on your face and say "Hope you have a wonderful day sweetie" and walk away. That's how a guy that isn't attention seeking or approval seeking would act.

Don't ask, just do. Also moving sets i've found to be way different, maybe they are generally late for something and they can't talk.
Don't ever bitch them out man, put positivity out into the world, not negativity.

if a girl says no in such a mean way when all the guy did was get the balls to walk up to her and barely manage to get the words "hey girl can i please ask you a question" out, then she is clearly the one seeking attention/approval... by the way if you approach a lot of girls then you must know by now that the existence of girls who are bitchy in this level is so rare that if OP was filming the whole encounter it coulda been on discovery channel.

also, you're misunderstanding the expression "bitch her out", it doesn't mean getting hostile and literally calling her a bitch or shouting out anything else similar, it means saying something to make her appear a bitch (she clearly was being a bitch so its just a way to make it obvious). as i said in my original reply while keeping cool, no hostile behavior. saying "Hope you have a wonderful day sweetie" with a huge realistic looking grin could actually count as a light way of bitching her out, so we're on the same page on that.
but wow another person who can't read? i never said bitch out girls who reject you, i said bitch out girls who are purely being bitchy, lmao...

Agreed, I think I read "bitch her out" and my mind made assumptions on what you meant rather than read your post all together.

And yes, this is extremely rare that girls are this mean. I've been rejected when asking for numbers and stuff plenty of times, but I've only had one scenario where I got blown out and just had to say "have a wonderful day". Even then I was so shocked by it that I didn't say it the way I should have, lol.

60YOC has this section about how you shouldn't waste energy trying to salvage a bad set. The moment you know it's going nowhere, just walk away. Especially when the girls have rejected the very notion of an interaction, which is what's happened here.

Girls probably have it all the time when they try to get rid of a guy and can't because he has to show how persistent he can be, and has to save face in some way. How about being the exception to the rule? As soon as you hear "no", just keep walking, don't react, don't show any emotion. If anything they'll be surprised at the lack of resistance and may even wonder what they've missed out on.

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