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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:01 pm 
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Okay, so, I'm on POF... My profile is detailed but not a novel, nor a few sentences. I have four pics, three with a hat on and one without. (I'm thinning is why I point that out, so I'm not trying to hide it.) My openings are around 3 paragraphs, personalized in the second.

Now, in the last month I've received 3 messages back from 3 girls I like... Yet after that it fizzles out for seemingly no reason...

- First example; This response from a girl I sent a follow up to; "Hi Ethan! Well, your second message worked! How are you? Yes, I'm new to POF and not sure how I feel about it yet! Just giving it a try...!"

- My response; "Well I'm glad it did... And honestly, I'm trying to get over a cold that I hear everyone's been getting! Now I see you're a teacher so do you tend to catch what your kids in school may have? As for POF, yeah, it can be crazy, that's for sure!"


-- Second example; "Hi Matt, Thanks for the message. It was a refereshing change from, "Hey, what's uo? Wanna chat?" :) I read through your profile, and checked out your pics. You seem like a great guy who is very ambitious, and close with his fam. Your niece is adorable btw. I can't believe you let people bury you in the snow like that.

As for POF, it's ok- nothing super exciting has happened as of yet. I was on over the summer and met someone and dated for a few months but it fizzled out. If anything, it is a great opprotunity to talk with someone you might have never met otherwise. Hope you are having a nice night."

-- Response; "Haha, yeah, I'm nothing but sympathetic to your plight from the unoriginal \ uninspired individuals you get messaging you. So thank you for the compliments and yes, my niece is more feisty than her older sister but they're both special kids... I take it you have a big family too, with your cousins alone I'd imagine your holidays are busy. As for the snow pic, oddly enough it wasn't even that cold!

And I couldn't agree more about the opportunity POF offers. Again I feel bad for women around here as with the range of messages you guys get you could probably write a novel, but that's what delete buttons are for! And yes, hope you're day is going well too..."

-- After that, this, and then nothing else to my responses; "I have four nieces and nephews - 2 of each. Cousins- not sure of the exact amount I think like 30 first cousins for both sides. Any big plans for the weekend?"


---Third example; "You seem nice and some similar traits I can relate to, not sure we'd be a great match however I don't like to assume too much in life, and I'm sociable so we can chit chat if you'd like :)"

---Response; "Yeah, good point... Especially when you're seeking out someone romantically, avoiding assumptions makes sense. But yes, talking is fine. I always smile when I read that women will get guys phone numbers or asked for their own before they even get to the 2nd message. So like I said above, you've got a great profile, and I can't imagine the novel you could write from your time here... You tell me!"


It all seems so positive at first and then I don't even get past their first response, MAYBE a second one, and that's it. So at the risk of boring you all, I'd really love to hear your thoughts or critiques.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:17 pm 
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These messages seem fine for the 40+ women. I am guessing you perhaps are in your 50 or 60's.

If you are youngish ie in your 20/30's then this isn't good enough. They are particularly boring. I don't know how I am improve it. Just make it more fun.

Like you would in normal text game.

I have a pof profile but have only ever logged on like 3 times. I found the effort/amount of girls I had to send messages too, simply didn't yield a respectable conversion rate. I will be day gaming today as I reckon an hour there would be more successful. I will let you know how I get on.

And please do let me know your age and the age of the women. You need to be congruent.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:38 pm 
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The problem with most guys is that when they get a message from a girl they met online, they think that she is totally in. This might be in your case, too.

The problem is that she didn't sign a social contract to meet you offline, therefore you can't forces her to meet you by logics. She won't meet you offline or she won't keep messaging you until it is fun for her.

So, whenever a new girl messages you on POF or any other social networking site, just remember that she will keep messaging you as long as it's fun for her. And it's your job to make her believe that it's fun for her.

To do so, you can search for funny jokes on Google and then send them to her. Pay attention to her response and find out which type of joke turns her on, then keep searching and texting that type of joke.

I hope this will help you.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:35 pm 
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Snowsaiyan - Yeah, the standard message I use is just easier. When I cut and paste before and didn't personalize, I was caught here and there, which I thought was funny. And even though some might find it insulting, it's still just easier if you're going to be shooting a bunch off.

As for me, I'm 32 and the girl are between 25 and 35 that I message. But you're right, it does take a lot of effort and can be disheartening after a while.

AlexJSteve - Since I've been online dating, yes I won't lie, when you send out a WHOLE bunch when some don't even look at your profile, when one does message back it does seem like a big deal, but only at first. Then I realize it still takes time, effort, and of course luck to keep things going to the point of a date. And thankfully I've had successes in the past, just not in the last half year.

But listen, you have the wrong impression if you think I think they have to meet me offline once they message me. In fact I've been told I take too long and pussy foot a bit too much because I never want to come off as pressuring them. I will say though you did give me food for thought, that it might be a good idea to keep things really engaging and funny.

Anyway, thanks guys and please don't hesitate to help me with any kind of responses to these girls in specific... I still have a window with at least two of them.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:47 pm 
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BetaAdvice - You are not fixing the problem just the symptoms. People can't come up with what to say but can equip you with the tools to deal with this and other situations. That is the mystery method.

Follow the advice given.

Essentially -
- Lightly neg
- push pull
- be flirty. So a slight bit of sexual intent.

Don't go for the quick fix my friend.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:42 pm 
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Snowsaiyan - Yeah, even though I know a quick fix doesn't exist and is really impossible, through my requests for advice you can still see it peaking through... The desire at least.

Your bullet points work though, as they're simple and get the point across... So thank you and wish me luck!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:54 pm 
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Well, any ideas on how to salvage these conversations then?


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Hey BetaAdvice,

What i've noticed in your text game threads is they seem to be fairly 'benign' you don't have any 'edge' or 'sexual aggressiveness that lets the girl know you mean business.

Heres a simple formula for your online game scripts.

#1: Opener: HAve it be unique and inoffensive... funny or teasing slightly
#2: Introduce yourself
#3: Tease her briefly and lightly
#4: get her number.

If you are having problems with girls on POF remember... increase the volume of your messages for real success.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:52 am 
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Great call man, you're absolutely right. See, I get neurotic about this and figure that my strategy will \ should work b\c I'm compensating for all the jerk offs on POF, etc. Imagine all the BS messages they get, the quick ones, overly sexual, weirdo ones, etc. So my logic is I guess to just pull back and woo her with my words... Yeah, no so much, as that much is obvious!

But thank you for your advice, I'll go by your template and go from there... Do you usually try to get her number in the first message?


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