Hello to all,

I have a question concening difficulties in clubs. I'm not a dancer, and I don't like to dance either. I do however prefer to walk up to women dancing because they always seem te be in the mood, rather than those sitting at tables. The thing is that in the Netherlands most clubs are either 100% dancefloor, which means:
-Too much noise to even attempt to converse
-Sometimes too many movement, which results in no eye contact because everyone is moving in and out all the time.

From my experience I am pretty good at negging once I have found the confidence for the approach and from there on my chances of kissclosing are around 70%, which is good I guess. I don't intend to go further than kissclose SPAM because I would like to do the rest for the first time with someone I know a little bit better, not with a stranger (I'm almost 18).

How to handle loud clubs with no possibility to talk?
Thanks,
Mercurius

Great start! I'd highly recommend pushing past kiss close. Pull her. Once you're in sex location, then decide if you want to sleep with her. But saying you have it figured out after the kiss is short sighted. That's about 10-20% of the way through the pick up.

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No matter when you kiss her, in the beginning or the end, you still have to go through the comfort stage (having a conversation and get to know each other). There are usually no shortcuts. I say usually, because there are always exceptions to the rule - loose girls, sleeping with about any guy they meet, girls you want to avoid I hope.

Are dancing and sitting down the only two options you have? I prefer venues where people stand up with background music, because that makes everything more dynamic, and you can move around and mingle more freely. If there are places to sit, they should be sofas and not chairs, because such furniture invites people to sit down at the same table, even if they don't know each other.

Clubs is more of a subcommunication game vs a verbal game, you need to be you to force or spot approach invites get some compliance, escalate and isolate. Neg and all that other silly stuff does not work well if at all in clubs. Dancing make stuff way easier.

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