I have a problem trying to manage my anger / disapproval with women in general.

I believe that woman, based on their perennial indifference, ambivalence, hypocrisy, materialism, jealousy, stupidity, arrogance / pride that they display to society, do not deserve to be treated nicely unless they demonstrate kindness / class / genuine confidence to me in some way or the other.

If they can't demonstrate this, then I get angry with them and begin to get slightly abusive (not physically, but mentally). As an example, where I live, the women here are generally very angry themselves - I suppose the fact that my country has an incredibly high rate of abuse / violence towards women (by men) doesn't help us much. But to behave in a way that completely negates your every attempt to speak to them / communicate with them? Even the shit tests are pathetic, and are not really borne from any intelligence / rational piece of thinking.

Am I being too heavy on women? Do I need to build up my 'personal boundary' (as David D refers to) and become more resilient / confident? My being angry clearly has not helped to improve my situation, so carrying one like this can only make it worse for me.

This is a serious sticking point, and threatens to become worse if I don't address it now. The anger stays with me after I return home, and is potentially destructive.

How the fuck does one just accept that this is how women are, that you cannot control their behaviour, and to convince yourself that persistence and self-esteem will take me through this?

Thanks.

i think you behave like that, because you afraid to lose control, which makes you want to control women, therefore, you doesn't reason logically in a situation involves women, because they don't behave as you expect, so you get angry of them.
since you say everyone in your country hot tempered and out of control of themselves these women have very good sense to body language, they react with anger when they read your body language, you must to understand that it is what it is, a starting point defined, a default conditions, a chess game, a mind war.
you have to fight, to play the game, to outsmart it, you got to struggle, you must to believe in improvement, to believe that you will win.
change your body language, smile them, move slower, set yourself on the mind of acting - you are playing, its a game there is no consequences and never were, take your anger and redirect him to your purpose, each time you pissed off, tell yourself :"om my god or f*ck, what a sweet revenge it will be when, i will outsmart the system, outsmart all women, when all women will fall to my legs and they will".
you got to build your self affirmations, because no one will do it for you.

good luck,
~Vlad

Hi Vlads

Thanks for the feedback. I hear you about the anger being consistent with my body language, and the need to smile more. But to be perfectly honest, women in this city seem to confuse positive body language with negative as well, i.e. many women here I believe have mental illness, or are on such a bad auto-pilot that it negates any positive outcome.

I have been reading a lot of articles by Roosh-V on the website 'return of kings', and am finding out more and more that Western women seem to have this attitude. Since I live in a mostly English-speaking, I am inclined to believe that it is the attitude / upbringing / conditioning of women that makes approaching that much more challenging, i.e. that approaching gives women the opportunity to shoot down men and make their fragile self-esteems seem important for that moment. To accept / surrender to a man's genuine interest / pursuit in them is just not consistent with their view of themselves (which is 9/10 times a very negative, low self-esteem based view).

Every day, I dedicate at least an hour or two to improving myself, whether through meditation, exercise, reading. I have a lot of practicing to do, but I am beginning to feel a change in environment is called for.

Cheers

Are you sure you're not "Getting the rejection in first"? A lot of newbies sometimes go in with really intense negs when they think they might be rejected. Then...when they are they blame it on the neg to keep their self esteem.

With you; maybe your anger vibe is a protective shield to make the woman's opinion of you of lesser importance (after all: you hate them so their rejection means jack shit)

The problem is though...they're picking up the anger vibe and that's what's messing with your game.

I can totally relate to your post, I do share your suffering and am yet to decide how I can change things around. I live in a country where the environment is pretty much similar as you have described.

So I guess that often it happens to you as well that you would be interested of the girl sexually but at the same time find her personality flawed in a way you know you are never going to date her seriously? That is a problem since I believe women do so well in these situations, they can often read a man like a book eventough you don't consciously give them any clues. The negative vibes are there and they sense them.

It is hard to accept that women are like that. You just need to keep in mind that not ALL of the women are like that and there's still some individual variance. There must be millions of them in your country as well? So what I try to do is enhance my abilities of quickly determing who could be worth of my time and try to actively seek them out. Ever tried going for the exhange students etc? Women with other backgrounds from other cultures? That could be at least a starting point for you.

And I think that you can control a woman's behaviour, at least to some point. But to control the behaviour of the whole womankind as a single man is just straight out impossible. Millions of AFC's around will make sure things are not to change rapidly. So do not be mad at yourself or the women, try to let that one go. I wouldn't try to "improve" myself into accepting any intolerable behaviour or qualities either.

That being said I think there might still be something wrong with your approaching if you say they "behave in a way that completely negates your every attempt to speak to them / communicate with them?"

Over here the women can and will be pretty straightforward if they don't like you. They will say things like "fuck off" to guys trying to hit on them etc. So I think the environment is pretty much similar. During my approaches here I would say perhaps 5% of them shoot me down at the very beginning. Have you tried to work on indirect ways to get the conversation going?

Can you tell a real life example of something that is happening with you?