So.. I am kinda ashamed of this, but im a virgin and im turning 18 on Feb 12, is this a bad thing.. i mean... would girls be able to notice and not want to be with me. I have been told i am good looking and i have a 6-pack and i drive a mercedes that i bought myself.. but for some reason, i have problems closing the deal. Also, i dont know if this is the right place to pst this, im sorry if it is, im new to the boards and if it gets moved, i jsut thank you for not deleting it!

well if you read any material from the experts, its not what you have that makes woman like you (stuff like money, muscles, and expensive stuff..etc....sure its a plus) but its who you are that gets woman attracted,

if your really new id consider picking up a PUA method like mystery method, or style Annilation method or any of those types.

Hehe, i think the edge to being a virgin is that you should have really high expectations of women, so you can find the perfect one to loose it too!

your a virgin? so the fuck what? im turning 21 in a few months and im a virgin. let me tell you a little story.

once upon a time in middleschool, King was a fatty. He played the trombone in band, and got strait A's except for the D he got in P.E. because he never finished the mile in under 13 minutes. When King went to highschool, he gave up band, and joined foot ball. there he got even bigger. when he graduated, his self esteem was like his love life- non existent. Then he went to college. for once, he met people who didnt care about his looks, but appreciated his dedication to his studies and everything else he did. He was still 310lbs, and only 6'2". By January of 2008, King was now 245 lbs. a few days ago he ran into a girl that had laughed at him in middleschool because he asked her if she wanted to go on a date with him. This time, King had PUA skills with him. That night he went to her house after getting her number, and she tried to sleep with him, because he was using catstring theory heavily. He told her he was a virgin, and when she laughed at him and said why, he said because he hadnt found a girl that was challenging enough. they made out and he got a good bj.

She called me last night, but i was busy .

moral of the story- dont give a fuck about social standards. you are the main event. you are who you perceive yourself to be. I am still afraid of approaching HB's, and it motivates me to know that i wont get laid until i can seduce an HB 10. use it to your strength my friend! things can only get better from here on out, but you need to get out there and sarge, sarge, sarge.


good luck, and keep us posted. i look forward to seeing how you transform, like so many have before you.

King (still transforming)

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When you say "able to notice and not want to be with me?" do you mean like, when you two are in the sack they realize you're unexperienced and therefore decide not to sleep with you? (not being rude, just wanting to understand your situation, I was in a similar one i think).

It sounds like you flourish with the green stuff(money). Actually, that doesn't matter, but some women use poor judgement when they rely materialistic bullshit such as luxury cars,pimped homes, whatever else is out there that people go ga ga over. NO, it's not a bad thing that you are a virgin. A percentage of guys at your age are actually virgins believe that or not. Nothing to be ashamed of at all. If you bone up on mystery method, then you could perhaps find a woman of high quality to deflower you..HEHE....now, for your first time, wouldn't that be an accomplishment?

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Thanks for the encouragement and the tips. much appreciated!

Is there any reason why this is on the "lay reports" forum?

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try reading the very first post!

OK so what ur a virgin at 18 there are plenty of 18 yr olds that still are. sounds like got things straight if u have a mercedes and a six pack (of beer) lol. gurls can't sense u're a virgin unless u make it odvious. just be confident and get down to business. i kno alot of other guys have been sayin u don't need the mercedes and money but really this should put u in an excellent position to get laid easily. it should boost ur confidence. if u haven't got ur Game tight yet just lay a gold digger to get the virgin status out the way. Then if ur balling like u say order some good pua books and study up! Cheers

one thing about being a virgin is that your first couple times you might blow your load way early. some people say a little bit of hand spanking like 20 mins before sex will help you last longer but i dunno. from what I hear from girls (i use this during convo) is that their ideal length for sex is 5-12 minutes. Mind you thats intercourse and some people recommend 21 minutes of foreplay (a little much for me i am usually keeping them hot all night anyway )

So I would actually research a little bit about sex, or as 40 Year Old virgin put it, find a couple girls you don't care about that much and gain some practice. If you are awkward and kinda shy about sex after both parties (you and her) know your gunna get it on its often a sign that your inexperienced.

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dude you are set having a merc and a 6 pack just makes you more appelling dont try to hide it, you will need less game which will make it easier to loose your cherry....and as for being a vergin at 18 dont worry i lost my virginity at 15 thanks to this communty but that doesnt make me a better person that you..... this site will give you the tools that you need to kick start your life go out every night! sarge all the time!
just dont give a fuck and you will have mor girls than you can handle

Johnny Rage

First let me say I completely disagree, with BlueRed and vivalaking

Get out there and get some pussy. Everyday you dont have sex you are punishing yourself. You are depriving yourself of something good.

Sex is a natural thing... YOU were made to do it. That is your function... cars drive, birds fly, fish swim, you fuck... it's just that simple. Enjoy it. Don't be some lame ass guy who worries about this or that or am I doing it right or maybe i'm not or what about this.... ENJOY IT.

Here's a tip to avoid blowing your load in a minute the first time you have sex. Have the girl get on top... it's just that simple. If you feel like your getting close, don't move that much, basically only use your hands on her touching her.



To vivalaking:

That was a lame ass story when you turned down sex. If you closed the deal the story would have had a good ending and a moral, but you didn't and it has neither. That's like having an 80 yard run and purposely fumbling at the one yard line. You had your goal in sight you could have locked it up. Not cool at all.... You my friend are making a big deal about sex when it's not... it's just something fun to do between two people. You clearly have tools, but you lack direction, and understanding about what is success. Even if your goal is a relationship the easiest way to start a relationship is sex.

On a side note I realize I don't have many posts on here, but i'm not a newb here's bit about me... i'm dating 8 women right now. Yes 8, i'm not even kidding and it's getting to be too much for me to handle I fucked the hell out of one of them all saturday night, and sunday... all day.

virtuosity your making way to many assumptions and this game is very subjective and individual...you dnt know the reasons why vivalaking a virgin or why he turned down the girl nor do you know what his goal was/is and so can not judge him on one post on a forum.

as for the guy who made this thread. if your a virgin so what, when u got the skills you'll pick who u feel like getting with and then if it goes pair shaped you wont have to talk to her again lol

Hey bud! If you've read gambler's book The natrual Art of Seduction. You'll read in there that he hasn't even kissed a girl at 21 yrs of age. So it's not bad that you're still a virgin.

Keep on reading this posts and my threads, read the books and any PUA material you can find. Soak it up in your braino and start applying into the field.

However first, work on your Inner Game! That is a must! If you don't work on your inner game (the confdience, and who you are as a person) then basically you're not gonna have good outter game.

Inner game is all about how to figure out who you are and what youre likes\dislikes in a romantic relationship as well as friendship. Also trying to improve your weakness into something much stronger and attractive to women.

Women can say your cute but they're only baseing it on physical characteristics. Women are emoitonal creatures and they visualize to feel. Now in other words, say if you told how a water mellon taste to a woman and added all the details-in her mind she'll start visualizing it and feel the hunger, while sliva juices start running. Women love visual and detail stories.

SO like I was saying, they may think your cute on the outside but they rather look what's inside. It could be that the women you're hanging out with may feel low-class compared to you. Maybe they'll feel that you won't give them a chance. Who knows! I'm sure some of them are attracted to you but not willing to tell you face to face because they're scared of being rejected. See what I mean?

Hope this helps!

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