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| Risen | PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:46 am | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Addict |  | Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:41 pm Posts: 201 | | I figured out that I have been building too much comfort with a girl when I should have been sexually escalating. I got some good kino and I even helped her out one night when she was getting hit on by some sleazy guys. But when I danced with her I tried to kiss her but it failed.
I realized that I need some good push-pull examples to help me out. Anyone got some good ideas? Thanks
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| Risen | PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:33 am | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Addict |  | Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:41 pm Posts: 201 | | still need help with this whole push-pull thing. Never was too great at it...would an example be like: if a girl is going to kiss you, you stop her and say no, we'll kiss when i want to.
Another example:she sits on your lap but you push her off. Next time you pull her and make her sit on your lap?
I feel like doing these actions may feel a bit strange so I also wanted to know some other good push-pull techniques you guys have.
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| CaptinAmerica | PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:38 pm | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Addict |  | Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:18 pm Posts: 261 Location: State side | | First off if you searched you would find some info. However there is not allot of good info on here regarding push pull tactics. Read some MM or Style for some in depth info. Basically what you are referring to when you say push pull is her emotional state during the comfort phase just before and really during seduction. You want to bring her to an emotionally euphoric high and then cool her off and fluff talk. Set up a sexually frame and then take it down a notch and keep doing this. You can intensify this emotion by linking the sexually emotion to you and the cold emotions to someone/ something else. Basically turn her one, turn her off, turn her on, and turn her off. There way more to actually doing this, but this is the theory of push pull. What you mention above is more like a freeze out. Read more because this subject is talked about allot.
CA _________________ Everyone should always be seeking self-improvement
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| sL!CK | PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:49 pm | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Addict |  | Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:18 pm Posts: 216 Location: Boston, MA | | Chrish, I agree with Captin, it's not phisical act, but emotional. What you're doing pretty much is not being too pushy, but pulling away some. Teasing, neg, and all the fakes come in handy here.
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| Green_Eyes | PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:11 am | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Enthusiast | Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:10 pm Posts: 83 Location: WV | | You didnt build enough attraction if she turned you down on the kiss. I think you skipped ahead to fast. If you dont build enough attraction but you build alot of comfort, then you fall into the "lets just be friends zone". Thats my opinion on why she didnt kiss you.
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| Foxx21 | PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:43 pm | |
| Offline | | Member of MPUA Forum | Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:08 pm Posts: 119 Yahoo Messenger: Arnold_0507 AOL: Nutkrakerz | | But does anyone here has some good ones like he asked ?
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| FreeLife | PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:32 pm | |
| Offline | | Member of MPUA Forum |  | Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:03 pm Posts: 116 Location: Denmark | | "You look fucking sexy... but I really can't tell you that because I don't even know you". Change the subject before she can reply.
Takes some balls but it gets the job done (i.e. builds attraction) _________________ - - > "It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees"
hollywoodinpa on The Transition to Natural Game:
the-transition-to-natural-game-vt15880.html
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| Foxx21 | PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:05 pm | |
| Offline | | Member of MPUA Forum | Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:08 pm Posts: 119 Yahoo Messenger: Arnold_0507 AOL: Nutkrakerz | | I'm going to give some good one when I'm done after work
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| Fact | PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:01 pm | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Enthusiast |  | Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:37 am Posts: 33 Location: USA | | Example: "Come here! (directive)... You are so sweet to me! *hug* (reward)... But it's because you want to steal my hat and add it to your underground collection of head wear! *push away* (take away)"
Example: "Give me your hands (directive)... they are SO soft *rub hands* (reward)... and sweaty! *push hands away* (take away)"
Using this loop of an underlying system of Give directive, Give reward, Take away, Repeat through out the entire pick up blasted my game to new levels when I got it down. In my opinion, this is push/pull.
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| Foxx21 | PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:22 pm | |
| Offline | | Member of MPUA Forum | Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:08 pm Posts: 119 Yahoo Messenger: Arnold_0507 AOL: Nutkrakerz | | "Grab my ass" , she does it "Omg I can't believe you did that, just because you're easy doesn't mean I'm going to sleep with, how do I know if you're not one of those sexual predator"
And if she doesn't go for it, you neg the target like "omg you don't get out much do you ?, you're fiesty I like that in a girl".
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| Foxx21 | PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:41 pm | |
| Offline | | Member of MPUA Forum | Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:08 pm Posts: 119 Yahoo Messenger: Arnold_0507 AOL: Nutkrakerz | | Here my kino push and pull that works like a charm, like crazy, I don't know why it work, but it does so I'm going to give it to you guys,
Fox: "come here real quick" take her hand and spin her around, while she spinning say
" I'm impress, I love what you have on" then once she stop spinning, "did you go shopping with your mom ?" lol this I learn on my own, then you can say " so much for looks but damn your hand is sweaty"I dkn what you guys think ?
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| Risen | PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:17 am | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Addict |  | Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:41 pm Posts: 201 | | hey guys thanks for the help so far...heres an update on what has happened. After a week of not talking I messaged her:
Me: i know you may not be into this whole craze called 'fun' so you will be relieved to know that I will be able to take some time out of my busy schedule to meet up with you later this week…that is if you repay me a drink
Her: We'll see. I have things to do too you know. When were you thinking?
Me: I'm going to be busy tonight and tomorrow, but lets get together on friday. Ill give you a call on friday to figure things out.
Her:I'm going to try to get theater tickets for Friday evening, so if that works out then I don't have time to meet on Friday. Maybe Saturday?
Now im not sure what I should respond. I feel like I should not accept her offer because a) she said maybe b) I should be the man and let her know that she needs to see me on my time and c) I dont want to accept and be like I dont have anything better to do on saturday.
What ideas do you guys have on this?
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| eddyeagle | PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:44 pm | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Enthusiast | Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:36 am Posts: 41 | | Something like:
'You have the best smile i've seen tonight...'
pause
'Actually, when i think about it, the third best!'
So in effect, you are giving her a compliment and then stripping it away - eliciting a wide range of emotions...
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| rain3 | PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:17 pm | |
| Offline | | Member of MPUA Forum |  | Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:20 am Posts: 145 | | if u can bare it, i would freeze her out again, and hopefully she;ll get back to you next time. however idk how well you know each other or if shes comfortable calling you. how much attraction have u built up?
i would say "awww thats too bad for you. im going out staurday. but maybe next time. "
depends on the real situation though
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| Foxx21 | PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:42 pm | |
| Offline | | Member of MPUA Forum | Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:08 pm Posts: 119 Yahoo Messenger: Arnold_0507 AOL: Nutkrakerz | | "I hate plans,.....What are you right doing now?" great line that get people talking. Enuff said.
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