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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:43 pm 
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It depends on the girl and how seriously they take their workout. While it is harder to talk to women at the gym, its not impossible if you do it right.
Yesterday I was able to get a girl's number and email after she overheard me talking to some friends of mine regarding my first published article. I also write for another men's dating advice site. It peaked her interest.
After she had moved off, the owner of the gym told me that he was pretty amazed that I got that. I was the only dude he's ever seen talk to her. Also I saw that I'm the only dude that's ever approached at all in there. She's a very sexy red head that has done modeling and run way shows.
I however had an ulterior motive in getting her number because the girl that I'm mainly interested in was near by. She watched our interaction the entire time. I was looking for her reactions hoping to get a stir out of her.
A goal of mine is for her to see that:
A). I'm a very social guy, I talk to everyone.
B). I can talk to and get numbers from other attractive girls in there and they like me
C). Make her slightly jealous that I'm not talking to her but talking to other cute girls instead.
D). Get her to finally open me! Hahaha
However there was something else in there that slightly bothered me.
While I was working out, two other dudes were next to me doing their set, I hadn't seen them in there before. The gym has been slightly more crowded these past 2 weeks. While they were working out, they started talking about the cute brunette that I'm interested in. Basically douche bag talk about her. She was working on the free weights across the gym. While they were talking about her, I started to get irritated by them. Stuff like "Damn that girl has some nice tits", "I'd hit that" etc etc
While I'm not above having some 'bro-talk' with my buddies in there, I tend to be a bit more respectful towards women. Keeping those type of comments to myself. I like the gym to be a positive place to work out in.
After they had finished in my area, they proceeded to go near her and get a better look. Being a bunch of alphas grunting and doing their squats and bench presses while leering at her. I could tell that they were making her comfortable and she moved to another area of the gym.
While I know we're not really friends, I do respect her space and give her plenty of room while she's working out. I don't stare or leer at her and let her do her work outs in peace. Its probably guys like that that have made it hard for dudes to talk to girls in the gym.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:58 pm 
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Last update on the cute girl at the gym.
The other week when I noticed that both me and cute girl I have been seeing at the gym left some comments and likes on a few of the gym's facebook posting. Being curious, I checked out her profile and was amazed to see that we had quite a bit in common. Similar hobbies, interests, music, movies, etc.
Taking this as a good sign, and seeing that we were both on the same page, I thought it would be alright to send her a message on face book and introduce myself to her. It was nothing long, just a quick "hey,etc etc etc"
After I had written her, she took my message, posted it on her public wall, and made fun of me in front of all her friends. :x
It was very embarrassing and gave me a solid grasps on what kind of person she is. She never responded to me, but felt more then fine humiliating me in front of people I don't even know.
After that I saw what her true colors were and decided that she's not worth my time anymore.
Lesson learned.

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What a fucking BITCH!!!!!! You know what would be funny too though, if you just acted the same towards her at the gym, just being nice and all as if you had never seen it.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:09 pm 
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The rub is that often when I'm working out there, she'll orbit around me. The last time we were there at the same time, she comes up right behind me and starts working out. So I'm stuck sitting there and seeing her in the mirror behind me. After that she came over and gets in my personal space and lifts weight. Normally I wouldn't mind an attractive woman being that close to me, but now I think she's playing with me in some way.
I've decided to change up my work out time and just avoid her. I'm there to work out and achieve my goal. Not to play mind games with a girl with too much time on her hands.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:35 pm 
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I told him (funny how I start giving out dating advice) that he should just be upfront about it and see. It never hurts to try!
you should have taken your own advice along time ago no this one. this thread is full of beta behavior. for anyone else reading this is what you do not want to do with a woman who you see. you dragged this out far too long and should have made some type of move on her way earlier than this (not Facebook).
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It was very embarrassing and gave me a solid grasps on what kind of person she is. She never responded to me, but felt more then fine humiliating me in front of people I don't even know.
After that I saw what her true colors were and decided that she's not worth my time anymore.
Lesson learned..........

I've decided to change up my work out time and just avoid her. I'm there to work out and achieve my goal. Not to play mind games with a girl with too much time on her hands.
As for now, you should need to totally end the beta behavior and end your investment in her. You need to confront her on her rude behavior to your Facebook reply. Do NOT just let it be and change your gym time. That is more beta AFC attitude. Keep your composure and cool but be stern. An example would be, "Hey, how come you were so rude to me when i messaged you on Facebook". Call her out in as an adult man in control and she will respect you as such. Keep in mind you acted all beta and she, in turn, didn't give you any respect in the first place.

Finally, call the other chick that gave you her number and move on.


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I told him (funny how I start giving out dating advice) that he should just be upfront about it and see. It never hurts to try!
you should have taken your own advice along time ago no this one. this thread is full of beta behavior. for anyone else reading this is what you do not want to do with a woman who you see. you dragged this out far too long and should have made some type of move on her way earlier than this (not Facebook).
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It was very embarrassing and gave me a solid grasps on what kind of person she is. She never responded to me, but felt more then fine humiliating me in front of people I don't even know.
After that I saw what her true colors were and decided that she's not worth my time anymore.
Lesson learned..........

I've decided to change up my work out time and just avoid her. I'm there to work out and achieve my goal. Not to play mind games with a girl with too much time on her hands.
As for now, you should need to totally end the beta behavior and end your investment in her. You need to confront her on her rude behavior to your Facebook reply. Do NOT just let it be and change your gym time. That is more beta AFC attitude. Keep your composure and cool but be stern. An example would be, "Hey, how come you were so rude to me when i messaged you on Facebook". Call her out in as an adult man in control and she will respect you as such. Keep in mind you acted all beta and she, in turn, didn't give you any respect in the first place.

Finally, call the other chick that gave you her number and move on.
Hey Text, thank you for that kick in the butt. I did need it. I shouldn't let her push my buttons and rearrange my entire day just to avoid one person.
The gym owner is a very cool guy whom I've gotten to know. He's told me himself that he's never seen her talk to any dude in there. The other guys i know who have tried to talk to her have all gotten the same results.
I shouldn't let one stuck up girl ruin my gym experience.
However, the last thing I need is for her to complain about me to the staff. I learned my lesson here and its best I move on.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:34 am 
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However, the last thing I need is for her to complain about me to the staff. I learned my lesson here and its best I move on.
You are still to worried about the outcome and what this woman thinks. This woman needs to be put in check. She will respect you for it, if you do it right. Just tell her that you think her actions were rude and unnecessary. It does not have to be confrontational. Just be firm about it. Stand up for yourself.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:19 pm 
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A little update on my weekly gym visits.
The good news is so far I've lost over 25lbs since I joined. Down from 225 to 198. I've cut down my waist by 4 inches. Now wearing a 33-32 as opposed to the 37-36 that I was wearing when I started. My goal is to still lose another 25-30lbs and then start working on building muscle.
Sadly however I've hadn't had any success in picking up to going out with any of the women I see in there. At this point, a lot of them are regulars that I see almost daily and we don't even say hello to each other each. I'm thinking I took too long in starting any form of meaningful interactions with them and I'm just another boring guy working out. I was able to get one number, but she flaked on me and never replied to my texts.
Case in example. There was a really cute petite blonde that I had started conversations with that was really flirty with me. Always giving me high fives, telling me that she thought I looked great, and even exchanged some recipes with me. She added me on facebook, then I saw that she was newly married. While I'm not aiming at starting anything with a married woman, her attitude changed towards me and is rather cold and distant. I actually waved at her three times and then finally had to approach her (after her work out set of course) to just say hello. She gave me the typical one word answers and was pretty dismissive of me entirely.
I was able to introduce myself to a rather statuesque blonde this week, but found out she's only 17! I'm 33, and while that is the legal age limit in this state, feel that is a bit too young for me.
The gym owner and I have become friends and he told me that he thought that it was cool that I've actually gone up and approached these women at the gym, seeing that I'm the only dude that ever has. But if nothing is coming from it, there doesn't seem to any results from it.
At this point, I'm thinking I pretty much struck out with the majority of these women and shouldn't waste any more time in gaming them. i feel that the fundamentals need a lot of work when I find myself getting boring and can't seem to get these women to engage me in conversations. What are some of your opinions?

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1st of all good work mate! Glad to hear you're accomplishing your goals! 2nd of all yes I agree this girl needs to be put in her place she sounds like a motherfucking bitch however there's 2 schools of thought here yes she may respect you for it she probably hasn't ever had a man stand up to her, but also consider the flip side of this you sent her a msg I'm assuming it was a standard msg and she had no problem embarrassing you publicly. Now she's playing games with you say you confront her she doesn't like it and tells the gym owner you touched her inappropriately or sexually assaulted her. Even if you didn't you're guilty until proven innocent and by the sounds of things I wouldn't put it past her. Normally I'd say ya assert yourself, but this girl seems sketchy as hell if I were you I'd personally just be my happy go lucky self and treat her like she doesn't exist.


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She's a total bitch. I would just tap her on the shoulder, say that she was rude to you and that she is a total bitch then walk away and never look back. Everyone at the gym will be like wtf, but do it for you man. I dont think it was a good idea messaging her online. You should have just approached her after the gym and ran your game then.


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Find other spots to game.
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finally had to approach her (after her work out set of course) to just say hello. She gave me the typical one word answers and was pretty dismissive of me entirely.
There is a possibility that her responses were because she could "tell" you were "approaching" her with the intent of you wanting to 'get' something from her. Try practicing game outside of the gym and as you improve, your natural confidence will probably be noted by the gymgirls - at which time you won't care that much about that - which will interest them exponentially more.


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[quote="oceanx"]Find other spots to game.

This. Given that you first posted here in December, and you haven't had any results in the 6 months since, I think anyone, PUA or not PUA would tell you that you need to change your scenery.

Personally, when I'm in the gym doing a workout, I don't want to talk to anyone. By the end of my workout, I'm sweaty, and exhausted, and know that I look like shit, and am probably not in the best mood. The last thing I want is anyone to start talking to me. I don't think the gym is a good place to pick up at all, especially when you're still learning. I think someone posted on the forum a few days ago about how a girl will remember how she felt when she spoke to you last. If she hands her number over, when she is tired and sweaty, and then gets a text from you the next day, her reference point will be how she felt when you last spoke to her...and I don't think feeling tired and disgusting is a good memory for her haha

You've become a fixture at your gym, and its possible that you have built a reputation for trying to talk to girls, especially if you're fundamentals aren't great. That sort of reputation isn't a good one to have. THe gym is almost your wider social circle, and I think it was one of the guys from LoveSystems that said if you want to be good in social circle, you need to learn outside of your social circle. Practising in your social circle is a bad idea.

Until you improve your fundamentals, try to mix where you game, to avoid getting a bad reputation. I know this might be hard if you live in a small town, but try to mix it up as much as possible. I'm not sure where abouts you are in learning to pick up, but the first thing I would focus on is your body language. For me, working on my body language was gold. I immediately had more girls checking me out, which gave me a huge confidence boost, and made any interaction better. I'm pretty sure research shows that body language accounts for 73% of attraction.


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Thanks for all the comments. I'm thinking the best thing for me to do there is just work out and not talk to anyone in there anymore. Aside from owner and the male friends I've made there.
I know a lot about body language, even read a few key books on it. Joe Navarro wrote an excellent one called "What everybody is saying" that is a great read and I learned a lot. Especially what a person's feet are really telling you.
I know I need to increase my social circle. I'm a work from home illustrator so the days I do go out its neither to the gym, the grocery store, or mall where I buy my clothes, food, etc
At this point though I'm getting so saturated with material, books,speeches, and videos about game that its all started to mumbled up inside my head. I've even gotten to know and worked with some great PUA instructors and nothing seems to stick. At one point I was even writing weekly articles for another men's dating advice site, but it seemed force and kind of counter productive seeing that I'm not getting any action myself.
I would eventually down the road like to be able to help others with their social/dating problems. But until I can get my own faults fixed, I should be the last person to ever give out advice.

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the days I do go out its neither to the gym, the grocery store, or mall where I buy my clothes, food, etc
Tons of women in those non-gym places.


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First of all, you're friendship with the gym owner might prove fruitful. Gym owners are normally qite well connected with their clients...see if you can socialize with him more.

Secondly, take things back to basics. Find a style of game that suits you. These boards are good for some things, but you get a mixture of advice from guys telling you to pay while others say not to pay for dates, or being social vs being seductive. And PUA was built around these forums initially, and they have a lot to offer, but PUA industry has changed greatly. This may not be popular advice, but I would choose a dating coach whose style you identify with i.e I browsed a copy of Magic Bullets by Love Systems, and it is very, very comprehensive, taking you through all the stages, so if you're the sort of guy who likes a structure, and knowing what to do next, have a look at Love Systems. On the other side, if you ever read any of Richard La Ruina (Gambler) he does natural game (so he claims) where there is less structure, and David D'angelo popularized 'Cocky/Funny' which is another style completely. Google 'dating skills review' which is a website that reviews this material and will at the very least offer you a taste of what each style is about.


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