hey guys, I have not been here for long because of university.
I just started and I meet this gorgeous girl 9 or 10. we talked once in class where we had group task.
she laughed at everything I say. she asked me lots of questions about myself and seemed to really be interested in me, i do not know if it is like in funny friend or BF KIND. i was going to try and talk to her more, know her and ask her out. but i asked a friend about her and i discovered that she had a BF and i was shocked.

i was really attracted to her. so what do you think i should do?

Lol, what sort of question is this?

What are you looking for, a morale compass? For us to say, yes go for it.

If you want her then go and get her. However you strike me as an afc? I'm guessing if she is a 9 or 10, you are not used to having girls of that caliber in your life.

She clearly isn't in your bracket otherwise she would be just another girl. So you have to up your game. Learn it properly and then apply it. It's like the gym, it's no good knowing what to do, you have to do it.

Buy the mystery method.

In reality if you are below a 7 yourself I wouldn't even attempt it, all the game in the world won't help you. She is to far above you.

The game is not designed for you to fluke a girl but to get a girl of that caliber time and time again. So if you can't go out and get hb9/10's consistently, you won't be able to get her unless it's a one of fluke and in that respects you will always be subservient to her which is the wrong dynamic for a relationship.

I believe that should help.

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WRONG!!! OP, don't listen to this nonsense, there is no such thing as 'levels' or 'leagues' in dating, it's a myth that only exists in the minds of people who are still stuck in that high school mindset of "oh she's a cheerleader, but I'm not in a sports team, therefore she's out of my league" or some shit like that.

The way I see it, you have two options:
1) Continue gaming her, see how far you can get (always be aware of the BF though)
2) Befriend her, but like, REALLY befriend her, get her to introduce you to her hot friends (typically I find, hot chicks tend to hang out with other hot chicks) or invite her and her friends to a party, or whatever. If you befriend her well then before you even meet these other chicks, she'll be saying to them "you'll meet punisher tonight, he's such an awesome cool guy, if I was single, I'd definitely fellate him"

Personally I'd go with option 2 seeing as she has a BF.

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thanks musterion, I will do your advice, I will say her to her, chat, befriend her and see what happens.

Musterion - I do not agree. When you simply quantify those in relationships/sustained sexual contact people usually fall into brackets. I am not going to debate this. I am a man of science, when the majority of data points you in one way you can't ignore it. You are delusional if you think there is no concept of brackets.

A woman may drop down slightly but she will not go to far.

Too many 'pua's' on here will tell you looks doesn't matter. It does. Girls are biologically predesigned to be attracted to handsome, healthy men.

Do you honestly think average joe could get a beyonce, a 10? Of course not. Your direct opener will directly be shot down.

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This is not the debate here. Looks do make a difference, there is no question about that; but it's a bonus, nothing more. If you have model looks, of course you're gonna get a bit of a better chance than a guy who's spent a few too many nights in playing COD; however this is superficial, it doesn't matter how good looking you are, if you can't hold a conversation, eventually you WILL falter. You say you're a man of science, well so am I, science is based on fact or theorised fact, and the fact is that an extremely confident guy with average looks will always have as good chance, or better, than a guy with model looks but no confidence. Conversely just because you think a girl is incredibly attractive, doesn't mean SHE thinks she is; I've known plenty of girl that think they look buttfuck ugly but are actually hot as hell, no matter how many guys tell them they're hot, they still have their own insecure issues.

If you believe the contrary, that's your choice, but to tell OP not to even try is just being a dick quite frankly; it's ALWAYS better to try and fail then to give up and wonder would could've been with a little effort. You say "your direct opener will get shot down" who said anything about using a direct opener here? You're making assumptions about how other people run game because of a difference of opinion in one aspect. The fact of the matter is that Mystery Method, Annihilation Method, AFC Adam Meta Game, RSD and the rest are really no fucking different, they all get results for the guys who's style they best fit; MM won't work for me because I don't like to use routine after routine after routine, but the full on direct natural approach doesn't either, because I'm not 100% comfortable with it yet. So I use a combination that works best for MY personality.

In my opinion, the best pickup method is a matter of opinion that comes down to the individual, and all ANYONE on this site can offer in terms of advice, is either what they'd personally do in that situation, or what they have experienced usually works best for them in a similar situation.

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I agree with Musterion looks are just a bonus to your game, if you cannot hold a conversation and insecure yourself then looks are waste, thats the reason jerks get a lot of beautiful women because they just don't care what girl thinks about them, the are self centered, this didn't mean that you have to be a jerk to seduce women. You can be a polite gentleman and still get most beautiful women out there all you need to do is to be strong enough to say NO to a women and ultimately LEAD.

now to the punisher
Only thing ill say is YES go for it, try flirting with her and try spicing up the conversation, if she enjoys and flirts back try kissing if you are successful then its on all you need to do no is to take the lead and take her to your bedroom without letting her feel like a slut(its a big thing for girls) and since she is already take you can face LMR or other kind of rejections. But take the lead if you fail you will ultimately have an experience and if you succeed you will have a lay. BUT, do not do this if she loves her BF or you don't want to see her after sex, its not good to hurt a girls feelings.

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Musterion and Jackhammer - You are merely trying to treat the outlying symptom. I am no pua and do not claim to be. I was introduced to the game about 8 years ago and this has formed the basis of my development. I too, do not go for routines per se and focus more on natural game, to varying degrees of success.

OP is asking how to get 'this' girl. There in lies the problem.

OP you should not focus on 'this' HB9/10, but should be devising a strategy to get girls in this bracket. So please do take my advice. Do not simply focus on this girl. Focus on building a better you, in all aspects of life. A more attractive you. Not for 'this' particular girl but for you. For your happiness. So you can experience not one HB9/10 but multiple.

I personally feel you are too hung up on this one girl. And deep down I think you know that is true. Deep down you are probably thinking another girl this hot won't be interested in me. We have all been there.

You need to fill your life with high quality girls. This will not be easy. But it is the only way to happiness. True happiness.

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I agree with the above post. Work on building a better you, meaning becoming more confident, being a man. A good book is The Art of Manliness. In the end all you can do is be the 'best' you, not someone using canned openers that don't fit your personality. One thing I firmly believe is if something is ment to happen, in due time it will happen.. Look at everything as an experience , learn from it and get better from it. That's life my friend.

You got some research papers on that? Of course there is a concept of brackets, no one said otherwise.
You fail to see it's only 1 of many concepts - and looks barely matter if you know how to make a girl "feel".

Best example! "Average Joe" is Jay Z's second name... Just look at the dude.

To me personally, Beyonce's ass is way too massive to be a 10. So what's a 10 for you, is not neccessarily a 10 for others.
It's fine to tell someone not to focus on 1 girl only, but don't tell him NOT to try 10s because they are out of his "league"...

Limited beliefs result in limited success.

Cmd, the poster OP should take baby steps. Jumping in for a 9/10 would be ill advised. One should walk before they run. OP must think like a lion in the open plains of Africa. He does now widely chase every animal. He strikes when he has a reasonable chance.

Op please listen to me. Game other girls, get practise and more importantly confidence. When you are ready then attack 'this' girl.

You rarely get another chance. So strike when the time is right. I do not believe that time is now. But only you truly know.

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