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 Post subject: Pride
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:27 pm 
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I've been a virgin for such a long time (now 22) and not had a girlfriend in spite of the fact I consider myself reasonably good looking, intelligent, etc. And I just feel like most people are getting laid at the age of 14, so for me, it's a huge embarassment and I even feel angry about the whole thing. I don't want to get with a girl that's not a virgin. I feel disgusted and resentful towards women that thought they were out of my league. I'm in a game playing mentality and even though I've had opportunities with girls I preferred to tease them and cut my nose off just to spite my face. I don't want to settle down into a relationship where the other girl's had more sexual experience than me, I want to have sex with as many different women as possible to restore my pride before I even consider a relationship. But it seems that most women aren't interested in one night stands and would expect some kind of long term commitment from me...and I don't want to do that in a world where everyone else has slept around as much as they like and expects me to just accept that, get married, have kids and have a normal, dull life. I feel suffocated and humiliated by the idea of it. When I finally have sex, the girl will probably know I'm inexperienced and it will be embarassing. I don't want to get a prostitute because I should be able to pull someone without money. What do I do? Just cut my losses and move on? Go to Thailand, because that's where all the socially awkward 25 year olds go to pull exotic ladies that have different cultural expectations to the western dog eat dog mentality?


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 Post subject: Re: Pride
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:21 pm 
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Your sexual landscape is grim Bro.
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I want to have sex with as many different women as possible - I don't want to get with a girl that's not a virgin.
You need to lose the attitude, your goal is not to look for sex or a woman but merely to look for and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.
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But it seems that most women aren't interested in one night stands and would expect some kind of long term commitment
At your age quite the opposite is true. But likely not many virgins in the club.

Just loosen up a little Bro, stop over-thinking it all.
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I feel suffocated and humiliated by the idea of it.
Your carrying to much unneeded burden. It's just sex.

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 Post subject: Re: Pride
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:40 pm 
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You're a virgin and you only want to sleep with virgins.

Good luck with that.


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 Post subject: Re: Pride
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:08 pm 
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You're a virgin and you only want to sleep with virgins.

Good luck with that.
Hahaha. This is like saying take up medicine first and then specialize in gynecology before getting laid!

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 Post subject: Re: Pride
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:42 pm 
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The longer you leave it the harder it will be. If you don't act now you'll end up being a 40-year old virgin.

Get on it son.


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 Post subject: Re: Pride
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:00 am 
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You really need to change your way of thinking dude... Or else nothing is gonna change.


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 Post subject: Re: Pride
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:37 am 
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I feel disgusted and resentful towards women that thought they were out of my league.
This is an unhealthy attitude to have towards women. No one will want to sleep with you if you resent them.
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I want to have sex with as many different women as possible to restore my pride before I even consider a relationship.
This isn't where true pride comes from. True pride comes from self-love, not slutting it up.

Dude, good luck finding a virgin. Suck it up, buttercup. Women sometimes have more experience than you. A GOOD women won't be a bitch about it. You may want to go the relationship route for the first time, but if not, most women aren't going to laugh or mock you. Just don't mention that you're a virgin.

It sounds like you have a very unhealthy attitude towards women and sexuality. This may be holding you back from women wanting to sleep with you.

Also, beggars can't be choosers. If you're considering prostitution, then it shouldn't matter how many partners the girl has. Also, only having sex with a prostitute will give you an unhealthy view towards sex and how the interaction should go.

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 Post subject: Re: Pride
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:06 am 
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For the record, the average age people lose their virginity is 17-18, so if you act now you're not far off.

If you're really set on finding a virgin, you cannot fuck lots of hot women, because hot women like hot jizz, they're not sitting around at home waiting for you. You would need to join a strict church and marry one of the young women there. Or move to a Muslim country where women are stoned to death for cheating on their husbands.

But let's be real, you should be going out more. I think you could get away with telling a girl you're a virgin. She probably won't believe you and it will intrigue her as to why you said it.


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 Post subject: Re: Pride
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:17 pm 
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Ok, I was mainly letting off steam and I can appreciate what you guys are saying but...

- I think at my uni, most girls like to be 'courted', they don't want to just shag you after a drunken night out. With what I know now, I probably have a better chance than most guys at one night stands but even for me it's a struggle.

- I know I said I only wanted to have sex with a virgin in the OP but mostly I just want loads of sexual experience before I settle into a relationship so I can settle out old scores. I'm not that fussy when it comes to looks either, I've made out with pretty average girls.

- Four or five years off the average age still irks me - I have good looks and intelligence, so I feel that I deserve this ... no, I deserved this.

- Obviously, I don't share this attitude with girls, most would be quite surprised, bar a very small few that have me sussed out.

- If I sleep with someone who's not a virgin, I'll look clueless in bed and that'll be an embarassment. Last time I got ED and couldn't do anything because the girl was in a 6 year relationship. With a virgin, I'll be able to take charge.


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 Post subject: Re: Pride
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:26 pm 
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You have incredibly unhealthy views about sex.

It's about revenge for you, which is ridiculous. You're not valuing yourself highly.

Why the fuck do you care what, "women did in the past".

You didn't deserve to have sex with them, you sucked (as evidenced by the fact that you didn't have sex with them). Now that you suck less, you're perhaps valuable enough to have sex with them.

Wanting to "settle the score" is gross and any woman who found out about that wouldn't want to sleep with you. Plus you're acting in retaliation/reaction. That's not what an "alpha" does - an alpha makes his own way, he doesn't simply react by being whiny and wanting to punish women.

You can do better, OP.


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 Post subject: Re: Pride
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:36 pm 
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It's not because in the past I sucked (well, ok, maybe a little) it's because girls always want XYZ done in such and such a manner and everything has to be just so. To get any action whatsoever I had to jump into this mindset myself and man, it fucks you up. I've become so damned cynical of everything.

And it's not revenge, I just want to know I can do it ... a lot.


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 Post subject: Re: Pride
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:11 pm 
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If a girl is demanding you act a certain way in which you do not want to act to sleep with her, then drop her.

Don't be anyone's bitch.

Now, go out, and fuck non-virginal girls. They're better at it, and they have far fewer hang-ups.

If you want it to take forever, and suck, go ahead and fuck a virgin. You won't have any idea what you're doing, and neither will she, and it will absolutely terrible. Get over your issues, and go fuck a normal girl.


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 Post subject: Re: Pride
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:34 pm 
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If a girl is demanding you act a certain way in which you do not want to act to sleep with her, then drop her.

Don't be anyone's bitch.

Now, go out, and fuck non-virginal girls. They're better at it, and they have far fewer hang-ups.

If you want it to take forever, and suck, go ahead and fuck a virgin. You won't have any idea what you're doing, and neither will she, and it will absolutely terrible. Get over your issues, and go fuck a normal girl.
This.

Honestly, when I have sex, I try to please the girl, but in the end, after you cum, you don't REALLY fucking care how good it was. You blew a load on her tummy, you rolled over and then went to sleep. Sometimes you pee first, then go to sleep. Whatever.

You are psyching yourself out and as he said above^ you don't want to fuck a virgin.

Here's why:

a) It's boring. They don't know what to do.
b) Someone has to lead during sex. If you're a virgin and she's a virgin, it'll just be weird fumbling around and confusion.
c) It's a fucking mess. You think getting your red wings is back? First time bleeding can be anywhere from minute to a geyser. Seriously, you're going to need some fabric cleaner.
d) There aren't a whole lot out there and the ones that are virgins this late in life usually want to be courted and married. Party girls want to get drunk and fuck. Which do you think is more likely to get in bed?

Also, sex isn't that big of a deal, don't put so much emphasis on it in your life. It's fun, but when you build it up that much, you'll be disappointed.

Lastly, don't focus on getting your numbers up before you've even fucked ONE girl. Focus on getting that one and move one at a time. You might really dig that first girl, who knows.

Planning out your sex life is like planning out planning a picnic. Like Outkast said, "you can plan a pretty picnic, but you can't predict the weather."

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 Post subject: Re: Pride
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:07 pm 
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I was a virgin until 20, then had sex, then realised that actually sex isn't as big a deal as I thought. My ex described it perfectly "When you and another person have sex for the first time, it's just bumping uglies, only after a few times when you've learned each others rhythms, likes, dislikes etc, does it become amazing"

The more you pressurize sex into being some mystical magical thing like finding the lost city of Atlantis, the more difficult you'll find it (the only wanting to fuck virgin thing has been well covered). It's just sex, it's no more special than having a damn good intellectual conversation with an interesting person.

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