Still butt hurt? It's quite a long time since I called shit on your advice to use logic on girls to get laid.

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Hm. Haven't been taking soda, though I could use more roughage.

Getting a girl to kino me. only has happened with me once, but how often does it happen when you're doing game correct? Pinch my belly, though? In public?

I've had afew interactions since we've last talked that I can say were educational, but not many. I was talking to one girl, dominating the conversation, and getting her to laugh nervously, even as her arms were folded. Attraction, stat, I was conveying interest, but not too much, but I hadn't qualified her enough, had I? Sooner or later, I'll get the sequence right, but I was wasting time in comfort, just going on, but she wasn't there.

I haven't had much opportunity to practice this week, for a variety of reasons. Not the least, I got on a bus, and that girl from the college was on it, though I couldn't even remember what she looked like; seems like she called her mom, who tailed me, and called the cops on me. On was fine, but the other, he was verbally abusive. Needless to say, I dislike being harassed. I've stayed far from the college, and I wasn't hitting on anyone on the bus. TUrns out she's a seventeen-year-old, which doesn't help things much. "Touched a little girl's hair," the cop said, in the most abrasive way imaginable.

I'm seriously considering the need to explain myself to the police. I was being hararssed, and hopefully I won't come across her again, but I've already taken the precaution of avoiding that college, and then this happens.

I tell you, I guess that's one of the risks, sarging at a community college, isn't it? I was thinking college, but some high school kids are out for their GEDS, and the look of an eighteen-year-old, and a seventeen-year-old , well, they're nigh-interchangeable.

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The nonverbal sequence goes like this:

Situation 1:

Girl starts touching you --> You eyefuck girl --> Girl eyefucks you back --> You hold her hand --> Girl does not pull her hand away --> You touch her hair

Situation 2:

Girl gives you glances of interest --> You close the distance around 2 to 3 feet from the girl --> Girl does not step back to maintain her distance away from you --> You say your opener and eyefuck girl --> She eyefucks you back --> You open your palm and offer a handshake gesture --> She meets you halfway for a handshake --> You shake her hands --> You keep on eyefucking her --> She keeps on eyefucking you back and plays with her hair --> You brush her hair aside from her face --> She smiles and doesn't pull back --> You touch her hair some more and play with it.

I'm making a guess here why something like this happened to you a second time around despite being more self aware with your vibe and the nonverbal cues. My guess is you'll have to fix your grooming and fashion to fit right into your target demographics. You might think you're well groomed and fashionable enough but others around you might not think the same. Ask independent 3rd parties (clothing store sales clerks, gay hairdressers and so on) for their opinion on what looks great on you.

If you have yellow teeth, whiten them. If your nose hairs are sticking out, trim them. Before you load up your clothes on the washing machine, disinfect those with extra-strength Lysol. Use sulfur soap at least twice a week. Use loofah to exfoliate some of your facial skin. If your eyebrows are converging together, trim them at the joining point so your eyebrows look two instead of one.

You get the drift. Game can only work so much if you have handled the basics first.

Btw, if you have tried everything of those and you're still not getting any good results, then you'll have to set direct game aside and try indirect game instead. Mystery Method is one very good indirect game. Perhaps it is the most well publicized pick up method out there among very reputable media organizations like the New York Times, Huffington Post and so on.

Despite what other PUAs say, Mystery Method is well known in mainstream media organizations for a reason -- credibility. Again, if direct game is not working for you, try indirect game.

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So we're clear, this second time happened when I wasn't doing any pickup, of her, or anyone; my presence alone spooked her.

As for looks, I've recently had a haircut, where I trimmed my eyebrows, among other things.

Wouldn't say direct game has failed, Hellhound; haven't tried it, really. I'm thinking of trying it out on a hired gun at my gym, though; she's a new sales rep, has an office, and she's given good eye contact with me, and behaved quite friendly with me in our limited interaction, so the odds are fairly high for a positive response to direct game, I figure.

My plan is to see her alone in her office, walk in send a signal of direct sexual intent early on, and just focus on qualification and comfort from there. By the way, statement of intent is is part of establishing attraction, ain't it?

By the way, I opened a hired gun at college who has shown some IOIs my way in months past, though I've largely avoided her out of my own awkwardness.

I just opened her by bringing up that this was her last quarter (she volunteered that earlier, so I used it as my opener), did negative body language by talking over my shoulder, leaning back, and looking away from her from time to time, whilst showing some sexual intent via a hooded gaze, which indeed got her her to open up, and use her hands expansively.

She didn't do so for long, though. She soon recovered, and asked, as she was the receptionist on duty, what I was there for. Isaid no one, just wanted to talk with her, and then proceeded to leave, given we had done so, even if I wanted to prolong the conversation.

Likely didn't show enough energy, did I? More salient, I didn't show enough sexual intent, I suppose; she seemed friendly enough, but seems to have been puzzled to some degree by my intentions. Didn't kino, but that wasn't what I was trying to do, as per your advice.

Thoughts?

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wow, this thread is painful. i gave some real solid advice early on that was ignored but to each his her own. but if you really want to improve you have to be able to learn. gaming isn't the easiest thing but you are making it way harder than it has to be. you are using an outdated method of pickup. it's like you are getting your cues straight from The pickup artist reality show. those things are almost a decade old by now. The Game was released in 2005 and it's 2014.

i will repeat the most important points once more to get you going. if you choose to ignore it then i will leave it be.
1) try a different older crowd
2) stop mass approaching

If you do not like bars that is fine. Read your local entertainment paper, join meetup.com, find singles groups. Master your demographic before venturing off. If you really want to do the college thing then actually enroll in a course or two. that will give you every right to interact with other students and will make a huge difference in your success.

Hmm. Look at the video below.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYmYA4ZPsIM[/youtube]

You'll see why so many girls are attracted to high testosterone guys with a sense of humor and how these dudes can easily get away with sexual stuff. Rampage is dressed casually with sweat on his t-shirt (not exactly fashionable). The girl is eyefucking him and got too close the personal space of around 2-3 feet. When Rampaged noticed this, he eyefucks the girl back but the girl did not pull her gaze down in submission. So Rampage grabbed the small of her back and starts dry humping her. The girl's reaction was priceless. She just giggled and blushed; which meant she liked every moment of the dry humping despite the rolling cameras.

I'm not saying you start dry humping girls left and right. The video is there to illustrate the point that you've gotta learn to read fuck me eyes from girls and give girls the eyefuck back. I suspect that hooded eyes of yours might also be a culprit for the creepy vibe you have been projecting.

You might also need to build your testosterone levels up. There's this popular research around 2011 or 2012 that girls find guys with good testosterone and immunity to diseases very attractive while the reverse is true. Girls find guys with low testosterone and poor immunity to diseases unattractive; perhaps, even creepy.
Sounds good. Every time I had a new haircut from those gay hairdressers (slightly more expensive than barbershops but definitely worth it), I get lots of approach invitation cues from women young or old.
Hmm. I thought all along you tried 60YOC stuff (eyefuck, hold hand, touch hair) which got you into trouble the second time around.

Yeah. I say go for it. If her reaction is good, then we can both say that your body language reading skills is already good by that point in time.

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Vague advice is NOT solid advice.
If you say approach A is not good, provide a clear alternative to approach A and detail the steps.

For instance, instead of mass approaching OP you need to have targeted approach by getting familiar with approach invitation cues. Some examples of approach invitation cues are: blah, blah, blah...

You might also want to try propinquity sarging or social circle gaming. In brief, social circle gaming goes this way...

Provide clearer advice next time than just simply pulling negative rhetoric here and there and maybe people with problems will start to consider the merits of what you're saying. Negative rhetoric has no substance at all. It's empty. It's vague advice.

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Well, first about my eyes, Hellhound; I'm learning when to do it, and how. The other day, I came across a girl whoworked in an office I visit give me a certain something in her tone of voice, and started qualififying her, using the neutral vibe, but after five, ten minutes of semi-awkward banter, she started to phyical open up, stretching her arms physically out in my direction. Yes, she was willing to listen to me talk about topics of marginal interest, but it seems she really got interested after I started returning her sexual interest in kind, which is why sheshowed interest in me in the first place, isn't it?

Second incident. Just this morning, I got hit on at the gym by the pool by an ugly middle-aged Vietnamese immigrant. I just conveyed an engaged neutral vibe, not showing too much interest, but when she started to show sexual interest, I returned fire with my eyes, causing her to start asking me personal questions.

You know, I may yet get get the hang of this thing called flirting yet; I'm being very cautious, and passive. I guess it's about knowing when to shift from neutral to sexual vibe. Right now, I'm basically being an opportunist. One natural said, "I don't open women; women open me." Thus, since I haven't been sarging, I've been keeping my eyes open to female advances, aunlike ignoring them in the past, engaged them, and to interesting result, indeed.

As to low testosterone, I think I've got pretty good testoterone; how do I check this? What are the studies you're talking of? Id like to hear about them.

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