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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:49 pm 
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So I went with this chick for 3 dates... she probably already friend zoned me right at the beginning,
but still she came to my place on the 3rd date. Was able to make out with her, had mutual oral sex with her, but she told me she was a virgin and I couldn't penetrate she was all in pain and saying "ouch". also she said I don't see you like this, you are like an uncle to me.

I tried to meet again after the events above, but she would play busy and wouldn't agree to meet. Then it was revealed she was dating someone else, and she told me she doesn't want to play games, but she wants us to stay friends if I'm ok with that. I said I'm cool with that, and was trying to set up some meet ups, but she was playing all busy again and all (and busy supposedly with that guy).

So I went cold on her, thought the friends thing was just bs, and just drop her entirely. It's been like 10 days since then, and today she texts me:

Hi kralor, so sorry kept messing up with that guy I met that told you before.
It consumed most/almost all my energy.
This message is just to say I would like to be still placed on your "friend" list if you want to go some place together later.
Have a good day!


How should I act on this? Is there a chance I can get "something" out of this?
Haven't replied yet (been like 4 hours since she sent it). Please advise.

Thanks!


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What do you want out of the relationship kralor? From the information you have given me, it is clear that you are a back up option to her. I like to live by the old saying "never make someone a priority when you are an option".

You could game this chick if you just want to get it in...but go in knowing that she is playing you.

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What do you want out of the relationship kralor? From the information you have given me, it is clear that you are a back up option to her. I like to live by the old saying "never make someone a priority when you are an option".

You could game this chick if you just want to get it in...but go in knowing that she is playing you.
I want to get it in at least. How can I game her? I'm not sure if she would agree to come to my place again.
What should be my action plan?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:05 am 
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If your only objective is to get it in, then be prepared to do whatever it takes. This isn't my personal style of seduction, but hey sometimes you just want to get laid.

You have to decide what type of guys she goes for. What type of seducer she wants. Your first goal is to score the meet up. Use whichever tactics you want to make this happen.

Once you get her on the date, you can gather the information you need. Don't accept the friend zone, and show your intent that you want to fuck her. Try to set the frame that you guys should be friends, but you both can't help but fall for each other.

Ask her questions like:
What turns her on?
What is her ideal guy?
Does she believe that a guy and a girl can just be friends?
Does she ever feel tempted to sleep with guys that she shouldn't?

Your objective should be to build enough sexual tension so that she has no choice but to fuck you.
The easiest way to do this is push/pull.

At the end of the date, just go for broke if you have to. Playfully demand that she kisses you. If she says no, asks why not. Just say a peck. If she gives you a peck, then say okay, we might as well make out a little bit. From there just keep taking ground.

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If your only objective is to get it in, then be prepared to do whatever it takes. This isn't my personal style of seduction, but hey sometimes you just want to get laid.

You have to decide what type of guys she goes for. What type of seducer she wants. Your first goal is to score the meet up. Use whichever tactics you want to make this happen.

Once you get her on the date, you can gather the information you need. Don't accept the friend zone, and show your intent that you want to fuck her. Try to set the frame that you guys should be friends, but you both can't help but fall for each other.

Ask her questions like:
What turns her on?
What is her ideal guy?
Does she believe that a guy and a girl can just be friends?
Does she ever feel tempted to sleep with guys that she shouldn't?

Your objective should be to build enough sexual tension so that she has no choice but to fuck you.
The easiest way to do this is push/pull.

At the end of the date, just go for broke if you have to. Playfully demand that she kisses you. If she says no, asks why not. Just say a peck. If she gives you a peck, then say okay, we might as well make out a little bit. From there just keep taking ground.
Thanks man. The question how do I score the meet up with her without being too needy?
I mean I tried before, and she was all busy with the other guy. How can I make her meet with me?
Even that she said "hang out later" she didn't say when, and she might get all busy when I ask her.
On the other hand, I don't want to show her I got too much free time either.

So what would be the approach/reply based on her text? Also, how should I plan the logistics to make her end up in my place? Worth to mention she doesn't have a car, so I'm planning to pick her up, take her somewhere around my area, and then bring her to my place, the question how to make her take the bait without being too obvious about it. Also what kind of date it should be (place wise)?


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The question how do I score the meet up with her without being too needy?
I mean I tried before, and she was all busy with the other guy. How can I make her meet with me?
Even that she said "hang out later" she didn't say when, and she might get all busy when I ask her.
On the other hand, I don't want to show her I got too much free time either.
I would leave it a bit until I replied to her text and then send something short and quick as if she was just an option for you (because she's doing the same) maybe something like:

"Hey, I wouldn't worry about it I've been occupied the last week or so anyway. Meeting up sounds great but I'm a bit tied up at the moment. When you are free and I'll see if I move a few things about just for an hour or so"

That will put you in charge of the situation and it will convey that you don't sweat on her as much as she she thinks you do. I wouldn't focus all your time and energy on someone that isn't going to do the same for you. Life's too short for that. Hope this helps.

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The question how do I score the meet up with her without being too needy?
I mean I tried before, and she was all busy with the other guy. How can I make her meet with me?
Even that she said "hang out later" she didn't say when, and she might get all busy when I ask her.
On the other hand, I don't want to show her I got too much free time either.
I would leave it a bit until I replied to her text and then send something short and quick as if she was just an option for you (because she's doing the same) maybe something like:

"Hey, I wouldn't worry about it I've been occupied the last week or so anyway. Meeting up sounds great but I'm a bit tied up at the moment. When you are free and I'll see if I move a few things about just for an hour or so"

That will put you in charge of the situation and it will convey that you don't sweat on her as much as she she thinks you do. I wouldn't focus all your time and energy on someone that isn't going to do the same for you. Life's too short for that. Hope this helps.
Agreed. To score the meet up, paint the picture that you are going to be doing something awesome on a specific day. Once you talk about it in a way that makes it sound interesting, tell her she should join you. (This way if she flakes it doesn't matter because it was something you were going to do anyway).

If you set it up as a date and admit that you are going to take time out of your schedule for her, commit to that shit. Tell her you are really busy, but are able to find a few few hours in your schedule to see her. Tell her if anything comes up before then to let you know, because you value your time. Tell her every single detail in regards to logistics and be specific. I'd say do all this over a phone call to just to be completely firm. (Girls respect texts less than phone calls)

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So I went with this chick for 3 dates... she probably already friend zoned me right at the beginning,
but still she came to my place on the 3rd date. Was able to make out with her, had mutual oral sex with her, but she told me she was a virgin and I couldn't penetrate she was all in pain and saying "ouch". also she said I don't see you like this, you are like an uncle to me.

I tried to meet again after the events above, but she would play busy and wouldn't agree to meet. Then it was revealed she was dating someone else, and she told me she doesn't want to play games, but she wants us to stay friends if I'm ok with that. I said I'm cool with that, and was trying to set up some meet ups, but she was playing all busy again and all (and busy supposedly with that guy).

So I went cold on her, thought the friends thing was just bs, and just drop her entirely. It's been like 10 days since then, and today she texts me:

Hi kralor, so sorry kept messing up with that guy I met that told you before.
It consumed most/almost all my energy.
This message is just to say I would like to be still placed on your "friend" list if you want to go some place together later.
Have a good day!


How should I act on this? Is there a chance I can get "something" out of this?
Haven't replied yet (been like 4 hours since she sent it). Please advise.

Thanks!
Sounds like she wants more than friends from you, but it is hard to say. You can say sure let's meet up for a drink and then decide if you want to game her or just be her friend. I am friends w/girls I have slept with, so yes, it's possible to be friends with girls you hooked up with.

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The question how do I score the meet up with her without being too needy?
I mean I tried before, and she was all busy with the other guy. How can I make her meet with me?
Even that she said "hang out later" she didn't say when, and she might get all busy when I ask her.
On the other hand, I don't want to show her I got too much free time either.
I would leave it a bit until I replied to her text and then send something short and quick as if she was just an option for you (because she's doing the same) maybe something like:

"Hey, I wouldn't worry about it I've been occupied the last week or so anyway. Meeting up sounds great but I'm a bit tied up at the moment. When you are free and I'll see if I move a few things about just for an hour or so"

That will put you in charge of the situation and it will convey that you don't sweat on her as much as she she thinks you do. I wouldn't focus all your time and energy on someone that isn't going to do the same for you. Life's too short for that. Hope this helps.

Thanks. I actually already responded with "hi xxx, we can meet this sat. Good night!"
I'm just stating a fact that we can meet, I think she read the message but haven't responded yet. Will see her response, and based on that we'll see how serious she is to meet. She might just say she is busy with the guy or something. Anyway, if she wants something she will find time, if not then she's just playing.


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So I went with this chick for 3 dates... she probably already friend zoned me right at the beginning,
but still she came to my place on the 3rd date. Was able to make out with her, had mutual oral sex with her, but she told me she was a virgin and I couldn't penetrate she was all in pain and saying "ouch". also she said I don't see you like this, you are like an uncle to me.

I tried to meet again after the events above, but she would play busy and wouldn't agree to meet. Then it was revealed she was dating someone else, and she told me she doesn't want to play games, but she wants us to stay friends if I'm ok with that. I said I'm cool with that, and was trying to set up some meet ups, but she was playing all busy again and all (and busy supposedly with that guy).

So I went cold on her, thought the friends thing was just bs, and just drop her entirely. It's been like 10 days since then, and today she texts me:

Hi kralor, so sorry kept messing up with that guy I met that told you before.
It consumed most/almost all my energy.
This message is just to say I would like to be still placed on your "friend" list if you want to go some place together later.
Have a good day!


How should I act on this? Is there a chance I can get "something" out of this?
Haven't replied yet (been like 4 hours since she sent it). Please advise.

Thanks!
Sounds like she wants more than friends from you, but it is hard to say. You can say sure let's meet up for a drink and then decide if you want to game her or just be her friend. I am friends w/girls I have slept with, so yes, it's possible to be friends with girls you hooked up with.
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