Hello, I new here.

A few days ago a bougt a copy of "The Game" by Niel Strauss. Fascinating. I only bought it because I though it would be an interesting read. Not because I was trying to pick up chicks.

But...then I was reading in Starbuck a few days ago and I thought to myself "Oh what the hell. There is a hot chick sitting next to me. I'll give this a shot."

Boom. Kiss closed (a term I just learned) in about ten minutes. Tried again a little later in another cafe. Same result. Same on the train a little while latter. They were good looking too.

Problem is this...Given the choice I would prefer to have sex with my wife, something she no longer wants to do.

Can I game my wife who I have known for ten years withought being to much of a bastard? If I can't I am just about ready to start banging as many chicks as I can.

Advice? (Yeah I know, "Just be honest with her and tell her how you feel neglected and you think sex is important." Believe me I have tried.)

Also, I am curious, how many men here are married and play the game in secret?

Actually you can and it can be quite effective. Pua tactics and techniques aren't only for picking up women, but also for keeping them interested in you wanting you craving your attention. If you're new to the game I suggest you research different techniques, and what not and find something you think would be effective in your specific situation.

Thanks. Any sources you might suggest?

No worries mate! Being new to the game I would personally suggest Neil Strauss's material. Its good for beginners as well my 2 favorite websites are www.badboylifestyle.com BadBoy lifestyle was actually what got me into the game, also www.wayoftheplayer.com probably the most helpful website I've come across tons of really helpful material on there.

Picking up a new girl is not quite the same as reigniting some old passion in someone you have already "done" so to speak. New girls are always easier, since you will be more interesting to them than to your wife.

You have probably done something wrong in your relationship, killing it slowly. Been there, done that (yes, 10 whole years). I have a new relationship now, and here is how I will keep it alive, in case you want to try it out on your wife:

1. Let her have her hobbies and interests, let her meet other people and have fun on her own. With other words, let her have her own life, and trust her. What I expect is the same in return.

2. Be unpredictable and surprise her! Buy her gifts, make dinner, take her on a trip... Always try to make new things up. This requires some money, but doesn't have to be that expensive. However, children tend to drain your purse quite quickly (especially if you need a new car, new house, new everything at the same time). So if you have toddlers you just have to persist a couple of years. I'm currently in that phase.

That's about it. However, we can add a third point, which is more or less an extension of the previous one:

3. Arouse her! Learn to read her signals, how to respond to them, and do whatever it takes to arouse her. Make her life interesting again.

Here's a FB status I posted yesterday that kind of relates to this

Most people jump into relationships and stop putting in work. That's the same as going to the gym once and expecting to get in shape. Relationships require 100% dedication. You need to be able to seduce a woman over and over again... you need to continue to do exciting things, visit exotic places and focus on creating fresh exciting experiences worth remembering. Marriages fail because most people see marriage as a final destination in the relationship
... it's not.

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The frame has been establish so it would be weird now... couple of resources i would recommend, 1 no more mr. nice guy, 2.- models mark manson... The game is not ideal to "game" your wife.

I will pm you some stuff written by the best players on relationship management...

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I agree with Brandon and Skills. You're fucked.

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What are your thoughts on me using NPL on my wife. I won't deny that the thought of it really turns me on. I would love to plant a suggestion like "Shave your pussy tonight," or "You initiate for once in your life."

It seems like it may backfire though. If she were ever to discover that I am learning NPL I would think that would be a bad thing. And even if she did not discover me I worry that she would eventually suspect something and loose trust in me. True...or nothing to worry about?

Gunfighter28, you said PUA tactics and techniques could be used to keep women interested. Were you including NPL tactics and techniques? (I am really hoping youe were.) Thanks for the links. I will check them out.

hugge, you better believe I am trying to arouse her. I seem to be a failure in this area though. Suggestions to spice up the relationship with someone I have known for ten years? She has told she just is not that interested. As far as I can tell she has no signals whatsoever. (We do have a new kid, 15 months. But even before she got pregnate the sex was infrequent at best.)

BrandonMarshall, see my response to hugge.

skills360, OK I'll try no more Mr. Nice Guy and let you know what happens. Who or what is models mark manson? Thanks for the links but for some reason no of them worked. Do they work for you?

Mr_International, no I am not fucked. In fact that is sort of the whole problem.

I think it's sweet that you're thinking of gaming your wife. I have been in a similar situation, I'm surprised you are still hanging on.

Are you still in love with her? The reason I ask this is two things. First, you went out kissing other girls. Second, you don't want to force it because she will read easily read you.

Bottomline - I hope you're not just trying to have sex with her just because she's your wife.