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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:21 am 
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I met this girl online about two months ago. We’ve been chatting ever since, sending each other dirty pictures, Skyping, etc. The conversations have always been amazing. I know this is kind of beta, but I genuinely like this girl so much, and really don’t think I’ll find another like her. You see, my interests are a little strange, and well, she shares all of them! I also find her very physically attractive. We were totally into each other. Then, something happened.

I know girls flake all the time, especially the ones you meet online, but I don’t think this girl would lie to me. I mean, I’m sincerely hoping that this was just some huge test and she’s just scared, but all of a sudden, she tells me that she might like a guy. A long time ago, we’d planned to see each other this upcoming week. I wasn't able to earlier due to my studies. She usually always responds to me, but I’ve noticed some distance since last week. Tonight, she got back to me, and out of nowhere, hit me with this news. I don’t know what happened exactly, but I’m sure it was just recently. She said she was previously strictly friends with this other guy, and now she has some feelings for him, hmm. They’ve known each other for quite a while.

This is the week before I’m about to see her, so it hit me pretty hard. She said she was really unsure about me visiting, even though we planned it a while back. Personally, I already know I’m better than this other guy being the confident dude that I am, but as it currently stands, she told me she kind of likes him a little more because they’ve already met few times in person over the years. Still, she told me I seem like the coolest guy ever, and that she’s still highly interested in me. She said she doesn’t know what to do and she doesn't like liking two people at once, hahaha.

I’m no PUA, but I think I handled the situation as best I could. Normally, I’d just cut contact with the girl, but I genuinely adore this one. I talked to her a bit and did my best to not sound desperate. She said she was so surprised at how I handled it, and that it made her really happy. Now, she definitely wants me to come see her. She says she’s saying no to both parties until she can really decide, but I’ve been given an opportunity. In a week, I’m going to be cuddling her over at her place. I hope it turns into a little more than that, but I really just want this girl to like me, haha. She’s still deciding if she’s willing to let me spend the night because she likes the other guy, too.

So fellas, any advice? What can do to win this girl over, to convince her I'm the one? Really appreciate it. Need the best advice I can get because I’m currently a little behind!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:41 am 
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Okay, let me be the first to say don't get oneitis. That shit don't work. If you see her, next week was it, just do what you always do. See already sent you some IOIs. It is kind of strange though, the whole thing with the other guy. Just make sure she knows you're the better pick. I'm not saying go brag about you.

You could also try to built up this other guy, if they're dating, to something he can't achieve. For more information about that, check out this link.

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When you meet her make sure she knows you're interested. Compliment her on her looks, use kino. If all that doesn't work, just go on and meet other women.

Also, you met this woman online? Meeting women in person generally works better for me and its way easier, because there is kino, becasue you can convey tone.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:52 am 
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Someone cure me of my oneitis!! Ahh, I'm infected.

To clarify, they aren't dating. She just has some feelings for him, out of nowhere. I found it quite strange too, especially with the timing. Strawman Technique seems great though!

Yes, I met her online. It's hard to find a girl with my shared interests unless I can literally type them into a search bar. Turns out she's hot and lives nearby, too. Can't mess this one up. I appreciate the tips. Pretty surprised myself I was able to hold her interest for so long.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:46 am 
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Someone cure me of my oneitis!! Ahh, I'm infected.
Oneitis is the most direct route towards losing a chick. Especially when another party is involved. Stop putting the pussy on a pedestal. Whilst you may think she's "amazing" and "unique" there are HUNDREDS of girls just like her. Noone is 100% unique.
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To clarify, they aren't dating. She just has some feelings for him, out of nowhere. I found it quite strange too, especially with the timing. Strawman Technique seems great though!
Don't think about or consider him a threat. Get a mindset that you're already better for her then he is and thus you will be. Don't tell her these things, show her.
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Yes, I met her online. It's hard to find a girl with my shared interests unless I can literally type them into a search bar. Turns out she's hot and lives nearby, too. Can't mess this one up. I appreciate the tips. Pretty surprised myself I was able to hold her interest for so long.
"Can't mess this one up" < Stop thinking like this overall. Even little snippets in your head like this can cause you to lose game/value. You are the man. Be in control. Don't ask to meet up, TELL her to meet up. Not hard at all but most guys think telling = rude = girl doesn't want to meet up.

QUITE THE OPPOSITE.

telling = rude = girl thinks "oh my god, this guy doesn't crawl on all fours for me...interesting" Just keep the talk between you two casual and easy till you see her. Don't big up the meeting as it'll just cause her to overthink it. The most you should talk about it is if SHE brings it up and then if she overtalks about it or says something like "oh i dunno if we should meet...I'm worried about the other guy" be a man and tell her to calm the fuck down. Like so:

Her: I'm not sure if we should meetup...I feel bad about the other guy.

Me: Stop overdramatizing it little one. We shall meet and it shall be fun!
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When you meet her make sure she knows you're interested. Compliment her on her looks, use kino. If all that doesn't work, just go on and meet other women.
This I disagree with. Currently I am sleeping with a girl that I have given a compliment to once. This girl you're talking to hasn't done anything to earn those compliments. The girl I'm seeing, she came round, we watched a film, had dinner and wine. Then she jumped on me and rode me till she was shaking. Then and only then did I call her beautiful. Don't throw compliments around willy nilly. Girls get them ALL THE TIME. It will mean more to her if you keep them limited.

SHOW HER you find her attractive. Use kino to your advantage. Touch her whenever you can. If she shit tests you with it just keep doing it. Don't overthink with PUA, don't go around using certain tactics and rules or whatever.

Just remember you are your own person. You are the man. You are awesome. As a human you have an insane amount of potential so why should some girl make you not behave like you do. Fuck her if she isn't interested.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:00 pm 
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Are you sure this is no Catfish? Have you SPAM with her?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:01 pm 
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BITmixit, I enjoyed that pep talk. I will keep all of this in mind. Confidence is not an issue for me! Still, I'm not really sure how I should escalate with her. I mean we've already agreed to hangout at her place we're going to be really close as we cuddle and watch some romantic stuff, so what are some extra little things I could be doing in this situation?

Mr_International, I said in my second sentence that we've SPAM quite a few times. :)


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:22 pm 
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I know this is kind of beta, but I genuinely like this girl so much, and really don’t think I’ll find another like her.
I genuinely like this girl so much - this part is normal. you're a guy.

I’ll find another like her - partly true. everyone is unique, but there are others you'll come to like as well. she is not perfect and if you put her on a pedestal even if you end up with her you are already setting the tone of your relationship by putting her before you.
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Personally, I already know I’m better than this other guy being the confident dude that I am
Bullshit. If you're that confident you would not be worried she would flake. I think you are just being an arrogant jerk. You don't know know jack shit about the other guy yet you're somehow better? Get that off your head man.
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So fellas, any advice? What can do to win this girl over, to convince her I'm the one? Really appreciate it. Need the best advice I can get because I’m currently a little behind!
You really should have shut her out but given you're already on that road I think you should flake on her. Not ideal but by going over to her you already made yourself more available than the other guy. Your value becomes lower than his.

If you do decide to push through still, keep things sexual but don't escalate. If you could, bring some friends who could wing for you. Better if they're girls so they can bond. When you're there have fun and show you're genuinely interested in her. Show high value and make her interested in you. Part on good terms, if possible use some reason that shows value like you have a business engagement or you have to go meet friends and family. None of the cuddling bullshit. Unless you want to end up being her best friend then by all means be my guest.


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Compliment her on her looks, use kino.
Use kino but never compliment on her looks! Compliment other things. Like her shoes, say you like how she does this or that.

But never compliment her looks.


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I hope it turns into a little more than that, but I really just want this girl to like me, haha. She’s still deciding if she’s willing to let me spend the night because she likes the other guy, too.

So fellas, any advice? What can do to win this girl over, to convince her I'm the one? Really appreciate it. Need the best advice I can get because I’m currently a little behind!

Fuck her better than the other guy is fucking her. Remember, you're the prize. Not her.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:40 pm 
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Whilst Manilahottie I agree with some of your post. there are snippets of your advice that isn't just bad advice...bad mindsets too.
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Bullshit. If you're that confident you would not be worried she would flake. I think you are just being an arrogant jerk. You don't know know jack shit about the other guy yet you're somehow better? Get that off your head man.
Bad advice = A PUA should ALWAYS be thinking that he is the best. This improves your inner game. Thinking you're the best = you express this kind of persona that you are the best. You don't feel threatened by other males. The OP obviously does so he's being deluded. However he needs to ACTUALLY think he is the best for her instead of just saying it. HE IS THE PRIZE thus he should know he's the best. He shouldn't act or behave arrogantly just confidently.
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You really should have shut her out
Nope. Shutting her out after informing him that she's also seeing someone else EQUALS A REACTION. Reactions = MASSIVE UNATTRACTION. His response simply should have been "Fair play, thanks for telling me. I'll cya thursday" as this equals in a girls head "what the fuck? he doesn't care that some guy could be pounding me...I NEED TO MAKE HIM CARE!!!."
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but given you're already on that road I think you should flake on her.
What? how is this going to get him anywhere at all. Nobody got laid by not seeing a girl. Girls also have an INSANE amount of options compared to us men. She could go meet her friends, or go bitch, she could go see a guy OR she could just go see the other guy and fuck him.
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If you do decide to push through still, keep things sexual but don't escalate.
what the fuck is this? don't DON'T Escalate??? NO, OP DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS escalate. Always be aiming to fuck her when you see her in person. Always be escalating.
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bring some friends who could wing for you.
NO! Relying on others demonstrates weak game. Also demonstrates weak inner game. This might also make her feel awkward in possibly getting off with him or doing anything sexual in front of them.
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Part on good terms, if possible use some reason that shows value like you have a business engagement or you have to go meet friends and family. None of the cuddling bullshit. Unless you want to end up being her best friend then by all means be my guest.
What? I agree with the cuddling thing. (OP: only cuddle after sex, she wants it/needs it. Provide the cuddles after sex and she'll be much more up for sex) Also why in gods name do people on this forum continue to make up that they're busy? BECOME BUSY!

OP: If you want to fuck her, aim to fuck her. None of this "oooo best pretend im busy to demonstrate higher value" if you aren't busy, BECOME BUSY! this will raise your inner game anyway as you won't care about girls so much. Don't end the night with you walking off going "haha im busy now" when in actual fact you're just gonna go home and masturbate whilst she possibly gets picked up on the way home.

Aim to get laid, always escalate, don't react just respond and fuck her like she's going to be your last fuck.


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Bitmixit, you are correct the PUA is always the best, but not to the point of arrogance. If you fail to realize your own limitations that's when you screw up. OP was being arrogant thinking he "already knows" he was better based on a few descriptions that the girl gave him. If OP was so much better, why does the girl like the other guy? Point is, you are the best - but don't be arrogant.

On flaking - as I said, not my ideal scenario.

Completely agree with you on the last point. I rescind my initial advise. OP if you do meet, go all the way.

Good luck.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:28 pm 
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Bitmixit, you are correct the PUA is always the best, but not to the point of arrogance. If you fail to realize your own limitations that's when you screw up. OP was being arrogant thinking he "already knows" he was better based on a few descriptions that the girl gave him. If OP was so much better, why does the girl like the other guy? Point is, you are the best - but don't be arrogant.

On flaking - as I said, not my ideal scenario.

Completely agree with you on the last point. I rescind my initial advise. OP if you do meet, go all the way.

Good luck.
Always got to respect a guy that rescinds his opinion/advice. Respect.

The way I see arrogance and confidence is:

Arrogance: An "outer" expression or state. You can only ACT arrogantly not actually be arrogant within yourself. Most arrogance comes from caring too much about what another person thinks about you and overreacting towards it.

Sidenote: However you can use something I call "Fake Arrogance" to make a girl laugh. For example if she mentions/hints she likes muscles whilst watching 300 or something you can behavely jokingly arrogant about your own muscles. This makes her laugh thus attraction thus all the good things.

Confidence: Being confident is all about an inner state. If you are confident with who you are, what you are and what you believe that this automatically seeps into your outer state. You appear confident to others because...you are confident. You don't care what they think thus you are confident within yourself.

So after reading the post again I would semi agree with you. The OP is thinking in a more arrogant way as if he was confident the other guy simply wouldn't matter. OP The way to act confidently is to just not even register that this guy exists. This is how/why girls cheat on their boyfriends/partners because the guy they cheated on them with just kept plowering through the "I have a boyfriend" barrier.

If she brings up or mentions the other guy act like he doesn't exist. Don't state you don't care about him just change the subject in a very "oh this conversation is boring lets change it to something about awesome bacon is" method. It can be difficult at the level you're at because you've already shown that you care about her seeing him.

You showing you care about her seeing him = she sees him more.


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