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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:23 am 
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I've had a problem up come recently and I wanted to know if other guys have encounter this on their way of becoming better and more confident men.
I've been noticing lately that I've been losing a lot of friends both male and female as I continue on my quest to become a more confident and attractive man. While I don't like talking about the PuA community, routines, etc when I'm out socially, the topic does come up from time to time, even more so now that I'm writing articles on it for another site professionally.
At first my friends were curious about it, but as they noticed that I know this stuff well and pretty educated about the topic, their curiosity soon turned to negativity. Often they would tell me that I was wasting my time in this area.
For awhile I let it go, but lately there seems to be tension in the room whenever I'm around and generally feel unwelcome in social gatherings. I've had my male friends ignore me and my lady friends tell me that they feel uncomfortable around me now.
I'm beginning to feel that learning and educating myself in pick up,game, and self confidence is costing me friends and my social circle.
Have any of you also had similar problems like this?
Should I let these people go and continue on my quest?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:16 am 
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Your friends are either going to keep up with your development or get left behind. Friendships aren't meant to last forever.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:40 am 
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I'm new to the forum so take this with a grain of salt as I'm not sure how differently you're supposed to be acting with these PUA techniques. In my opinion, your good friends and acquaintances shouldn't be repelled from newly acquired confidence and social skills. However, if you're now being brash and coming off as a manipulative person, then it'll turn them away. If all else fails, and you really are now outgoing and friendlier, then it should be no problem to make new friends.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:40 pm 
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I've had a problem up come recently and I wanted to know if other guys have encounter this on their way of becoming better and more confident men.
I've been noticing lately that I've been losing a lot of friends both male and female as I continue on my quest to become a more confident and attractive man. While I don't like talking about the PuA community, routines, etc when I'm out socially, the topic does come up from time to time, even more so now that I'm writing articles on it for another site professionally.
At first my friends were curious about it, but as they noticed that I know this stuff well and pretty educated about the topic, their curiosity soon turned to negativity. Often they would tell me that I was wasting my time in this area.
For awhile I let it go, but lately there seems to be tension in the room whenever I'm around and generally feel unwelcome in social gatherings. I've had my male friends ignore me and my lady friends tell me that they feel uncomfortable around me now.
I'm beginning to feel that learning and educating myself in pick up,game, and self confidence is costing me friends and my social circle.
Have any of you also had similar problems like this?
Should I let these people go and continue on my quest?
Mate, please, its actually quite simple. It is not the fact that you are educating yourself in pickup and stuff that is causing males and females to be uncomfy. Its the fact that they KNOW you are doing it.

The males are ignoring you, because they fear you are going to walk away with the girls they like. The women are uncomfortable because they don't trust you anymore. They don't want to get 'played' and they dont want to be seen by others as 'easily manipulated by tricky pua techniques'.

Its that simple.

the best of luck!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:05 am 
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Yah that is what I'm thinking as well. I've gotten into numerous arguments with the feminist in the group that think what I'm doing is dishonest and sneaky, even though they're the ones falling for it out in public.
I've learned lately to keep this stuff to myself now and rarely speak about it to others, aside from some very close friends.
I guess that it's all part of moving on. I'll find new friends soon. Thanks for all the comments and replies.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:27 pm 
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The main problem here is that you're adopting this personality and you are changing yourself.

Try for a minute to sit alone and try to see yourself from someone's else point of view. What have you exactly lost?

Before I started PUA, I was the humorous guy that all people liked to be with. I had the attention of my whole group and other people because I could make people laugh and enjoy their night without even trying. After reading many books and joining the fourm, I started acting more, how can I say it..."Hard to get". I was being serious whenever I entered a place. I wouldn't smile to anyone and I would over-analyze information and signals to the point where I'd leave empty handed or with one girl IF I'm lucky enough to find one. I used to stress myself and think about routines the whole day, it started consuming my whole time, my life.

It was recently that I've realized that I have to separate my goals in life. Don't focus your attention on PUA to the point that it consumes your life. I started putting goals for each aspect. I would go to work for 10 hours per day, I would stay professional and in a work mood as much as I can, not to mention that I started focusing on making a huge circle of professionals to work with. When I came back from work, I would get in the gym mood, where I'd concentrate on building muscles. When I go out at night, my main goal was to have fun and make new connections and I'd run my routines whenever I find a girl. I'd apply everything I've learned from the community and books and experience. As you can see, everything in life has it's time.

I hope you get the point.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:15 pm 
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Don't focus your attention on PUA to the point that it consumes your life.
I think this is a very good point

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:53 am 
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I've had a problem up come recently and I wanted to know if other guys have encounter this on their way of becoming better and more confident men.
I've been noticing lately that I've been losing a lot of friends both male and female as I continue on my quest to become a more confident and attractive man. While I don't like talking about the PuA community, routines, etc when I'm out socially, the topic does come up from time to time, even more so now that I'm writing articles on it for another site professionally.
At first my friends were curious about it, but as they noticed that I know this stuff well and pretty educated about the topic, their curiosity soon turned to negativity. Often they would tell me that I was wasting my time in this area.
For awhile I let it go, but lately there seems to be tension in the room whenever I'm around and generally feel unwelcome in social gatherings. I've had my male friends ignore me and my lady friends tell me that they feel uncomfortable around me now.
I'm beginning to feel that learning and educating myself in pick up,game, and self confidence is costing me friends and my social circle.
Have any of you also had similar problems like this?
Should I let these people go and continue on my quest?

I don't think this a case of you're outgrowing your friends and they feel intimidated by you. Sounds like you've become weird, hence they feel "uncomfortable" around you.

My guess is you're in the "I read alot about pickup and mental masturbate alot about concepts" phase. Not a slight to you but you say you write professionally on this. If you're not getting laid consistently and easily, you're just writing theory. I know alot about pickup but don't need to bring it up among friends. When you say the topic comes up what's the conversation like?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:28 am 
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At first the conversations were those of curiosity and intrigue. A lot of them were at first really interested in the topic and I shared what I knew.
The thing is that for a living I work as an illustrator doing advertising, comics, and graphic designs. So I come from a very introverted working environment. The circle of friends that I had made recently are all working in similar fields such as concept design for video games, movies, etc. We're not actually the most social bunch since we tend to work in front of a computer all day.
The past year I decided that I wanted to change that so I started working out regularly (up to 5 days a week), dressing better, and being more outgoing and social. A lot of my friends have stayed the same.
I did notice that the PuA stuff was making people a little uncomfortable so I laid off of it. I don't claim to be a lady's man or an expert on the field. The stuff I do write about is more casual day to day stuff on confidence and being a better man. I know better about bringing up sex and dating discussions in a social environment.
I did observe a baseline change in a lot of their body language towards me. For awhile it used to be open and friendly but lately has been cold and hostile. I started seeing a lot of them unfriend me on facebook and was even asked to leave the sketch club I visited weekly.
While it did upset me greatly, I know that perhaps I was the cause of the falling out amongst them and will leave must of what I've learned and interested in to myself when I met new people.

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I suggest that you take any kind of rejection as the opportunity to practice your confidence and self belief.
Let's face it: if improving yourself in the area of seduction means a huge value to you and doesn't mean a huge value to those who are now avoiding you, that means that nobody on earth can reallt reject you for who you really are based on the values that you believe in.

Hope this helps to encourage you a bit. :)

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If you want to learn more about how you can find the right values around meeting women so that you gain an unshakeable positive belief about yourself and an unshakeable confidence with women, I suggest that you check out my article on the subject on confidence with women at: http://www.pickupflow.com/confidence-with-women.html

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