Hey man. Well, the first thing to keep in mind is that all women have the same attraction switches. But you will want to watch the negs though. Some of them can handle them, some of them can't. That's where calibration comes in. So, basically, you will be dealing with just another woman, but most of this "category" will also have more confidence and will be more financially independent, so you'll have to calibrate for those two issues as well.

Just DROP her man. She's playing around with you, and not in the gaming sense either. She knows you don't have any other options, too. So, MOVE ON.

Im New here and apologize if this has been posted before. But I want to know how to deal with a girl that thinks shes above the game. I was targeting her friend I had a wing man with me we are both natural Alpha Males

the problem i was working my game on her friend and she called me out on reading "the game" i was using my own technology at the time. I responded with some nasty negs directed to her i know not the smoothest thing it ended up me and my wing man beaking her for about 5 mins and her friend laughing at her as well. what is a better way to handle this kind of situation when a girl thinks shes in control? how can i put her in her place

Hey man. Welcome to the forum. Actually, there's nothing wrong with admitting that you've read the book or know about the game. You two didn't need to double team her, that's for sure. Really, you should have just dominated the frame by yourself. A line that I like, if they ask you about it is "good, you're up to date on pop culture, I like that in a girl" and snip the thread and start another one. If she persists, then you could even admit that you know the game, and ask her opinion on it. Then tell her what the game REALLY is. You do this with passion, and she'll be eating out of your hands by the time you're done bro.

do you have any advice for when a girl you've been trying to talk to obviously likes your friend? Thanks.

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First, I would find out if your friend likes her too. If they both feel the same way about each other, you might as well get out of the way, because you'll always have that lingering thought hanging over your head if you don't. While you're with her, you'll always be wondering about those two. If your friend doesn't reciprocate, then you can keep working on the girl yourself. Flip the attraction switches. A girl's attraction can, and does, change.

Thanks L.A. Trip thats great advice. in hindsight that was pretty poor what i did. on a side note how do you deal with a girl that is pretty high on her self cause the other night i was just testing some routines on a friend (don't know her that well) and she was trying too be in charge

So im studying in london this semester but I met this cute girl awhile back. I didnt really talk to her but i saw her tonight at a pub. We stayed together for most of the night drinking. Her friends came over and tried to cockblock me but she still stayed with me. I even helped to fend off some sleazy guys, which im sure she appreciated.

All in all i thought it was going great. I used a lot of kino and she didnt seem to mind (touched her leg and hair). Although at one point i put my arm around and touched her side but she moved my hand. We ended up dancing and I tried to kiss close but she didnt want any of it! I dont understand what happened bc she really seemed into me.

We even walked together on the way back home with her friends trailing her. Basically i thought she could ditch me anytime she wanted but she stayed with me. I need advice on what I should do next bc i could really use the help and I'm not sure what to do.

Negging her and DHVing yourself. That's the whole purpose of that. And, you keeping the frame and staying in charge.

She didn't kiss you because you had built comfort with no attraction. Basically, you took a quick path to the friend's zone. In order to turn that around you have to turn up the kino, to the extent that she will let you, do a LOT of push/pull with her and start dropping sexual innuendo.

Hey thanks a lot for your help.

...but I still need help with this whole push-pull thing. Never was too great at it...would an example be like: if a girl is going to kiss you, you stop her and say no, we'll kiss when i want to.

Another example:she sits on your lap but you push her off. Next time you pull her and make her sit on your lap?

I feel like doing these actions may feel a bit strange so I also wanted to know some other good push-pull techniques you might have.

Tell that ugly wife I said hey you fag. Fucking fake 35 year old loser. Your done son! Your f*cking done.

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Now, now, Wild One. That's a little uncalled for. We get into one little arguement and you have to start cussing out me and my husband. All that cussing shows a little insecurity, don't you think?
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Too bad Wild. I was looking forward to blowing you out in Nashville. But, now that you've shown your true colors . . . how small of a person you really are . . .

Guys, this thread will be temporarily locked, for those of you that need to ask me a question . . . hold up . . . it will be re-opened.

Yes, those two examples are great examples. Why would they feel strange? Because it's not something you're used to? Or, for some other reason?

Other push/pull is telling her to go away, while pulling her closer physically, such as you're holding her hand and you don't let her hand go, but even pull her closer to you.

Or, telling her it would never work out between you two and in the next breath telling her that you two are going such and such place together.

Things like that. Get creative with it.