Yesterday I read an article on pick-up and the main point was that game does not work on college girls. In fact, the author said that it is counter-productive. His logic was that, college is all about being a part of the big social world that is college, and when you game you are trying to pull the girl into your world. He wrote that to get laid in college one must simply be adventurous and the center of attention. I found this very hard to believe...what do you guys think?

I read the article you're speaking of by mark redman and found that his observations are correct to an extent but not to the point that I would suggest entirely discarding the game. What he has found, in my opinion is nothing new, simply something that is not elaborated on very much at all. You will occasionally hear strauss or other pua's say that you want to handle a set with "equal or higher energy" and although great detail is rarely given to this piece of advice, it's advice that over the past few months, i have taken careful notice to during every sarge.
I happen to live in a very southern town where people are intoxicated far more frequently than they are sober and to present a thought provoking routine to a girl who's chemically brain dead would be pua suicide. If the people are wild, you're more wild. If the people are calm, you're almost as calm. You have to be the leader of every set and if your set is rioting in the streets, you're not going to win them over by leading them to a table in a bar, you're going to win them over by leading them to the steps of the court house with a molotov cocktail.
Also, such situations don't call for opinion openers (nor does any other situation as far as i'm concerned), a college party is no place to get advice on a sour relationship or what to name a dog and especially not a place to ask everyone the same thing. I prefer mehow's simple "Woooooo" and "Heeeeeeeey!" openers, that in a college SPAM you can stay congruent with and win over every set.
Whether mark's right or not, I'll be partying at UGA this weekend and will at least try bending my game towards his method on a set or two.

Its 50-50 College is a big social world and it is build-ed to try and be the main or center of attraction and yes also adventurous. But to say that we are trying to pull the girl into your world just does not sound right. What we are doing is called SEDUCING.

And the word has many meanings for example:
1. to lead astray
2. to persuade
3. to lead or draw away
4. to win over; attract; entice

So you make your choice of which one of these meanings that your using, and I think a lot of us may choose #4. I know that a lot of people will say that we are trying to lead astray or try to persuade her, when all along we are trying to win over; attract; entice her.

Holly @ your bowy

its right and wrong. I agree that college is more about being part of the college community, but that doesnt mean standard game is defunct. also, you always find girls that tend to stay away from the college community for one reason or another, and game works just as well on them. but in college over all, i would agree that natural game is a stronger asset then MM or NLP.

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College girls are like any other girl in at least one aspect. EVERY girl has the same attraction switches, regardless of being in college or not. You flip those attraction switches, you turn the girl on, period. And, those attraction switches are what the game is built on.

As a college student, I would have to say that college girls (at least at my school) are heavily influenced by men with social standing. Meaning the guy who throws the parties, has the friends, or has the social worth. That's why fratties seem to have success with girls. Buy they are nothing compared to a skilled PUA like some of my friends.

First of all, welcome to the forum. Second, the example you are using is a prime example of an attraction switch, which is why those guys have some success. They are leading the men. They have social standing. Which also means they are preselected as well, another switch. Then, throw in the protector of loved ones when that arises and the willingness to emote, and that's a natural breeding ground for the social dynamics around the attraction switches. Of course, the skilled PUA has the knowledge of how to flip the switches purposely. Hence, the difference.

'College Girls' The term is pretty generalized.

You need an eye to see which one is easy, not by the IOIs but simply by the person's personality and check whether it is matching the requirement in your head.

example:

Approach the innocent girl for love, the more gutsy one for sex, etc etc.

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easternwolf welcome to the forum.

I think, it is easier to game in college.

People are friendlier and there are a lot of topics to talk about.

In fact, there are a lot of high-quality women in college bro.

Cause i mean, i probably would not pick a wife from a club. (i know i know, wife etc is not PUA stuff =) ), who is dancing to "Fuk her in the eye, Fuk her in the eye, Blind the bitch, blind the bitch" -- EXCERPT FROM CHRIS ROCK.

Enjoy College guys.
I sometimes do not, but i work at it like you all do.

College is definately different. I mean idk wtf is with some of these girls. I actually got into a fight last night cuz some girl thought she could hustle me.

But this is what happened to me last week..

ME: Hey whats up
HB: are u in the frat?
ME: Yea
HB: Here, makeout with my friend and I...

Im new at the game and this is te kinda stuff that just comes outta left field. Is being in a frat that much DHV?

The settings and social norms are much different than like a bar or club. 2 days ago I threw a party just for some buddies and I to get drunk and play some games. A few chicks came over, some i knew some I met, and by the end of the night Im pretty sure I could have had them all even the ones with boyfriends (who were my friends). So I basically got a F-close and didnt do anythig other than AMOG the party becuase it was my place and I didn want shit to get broken or cops to get called.

So from what I can take from college girls, atleast in the party scene, is heavy eye conact, lotsa kino, and lotsa push pull. I never really find the need to do any fancy openers. The best I found is where you just accuse them of something.

I dunno maybe my school is just messed. I have no idea what to do about the classroom. Thats a different story

-Swag

First of all, the univeristy in my town has almost 80,000 people. There are many, many different type of people in that group.

I tried looking for that article but could not find it.

The game works on everyone. Male, Female, College Students, Vice Principles (she was fun), Waitresses, and Church Choir girls. L.A. was right, what is important is switching the attraction switches.
I allow them to be get a piece of my world. It is a social world (By the way, this is only one attraction switch)
Only two switches here but this applies to not just college, but to everywhere else as well.
The opposite of this. You want to go into a set with equal or higher energy level. Not the other way around. With that said, your higher energy level should not be to much higher. You will scare them away.
You should never ask the same thing to everyone anyways, but opinion openers work in a college party as well.
These openers work as well.
All girls are.

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I've been looking into Mark Redman's blog posts. He recently released his new ebook, College Dating Domination.

As a college student I've tried gaming both college girls and random women in the bars/clubs.

I have to admit... there's a completely different dynamic between the two. "Real world game" and "college game" are vastly different and I think Mark makes very valid points.

So, what did I do? I bit the bullet and dished out $47 for his friggin ebook.

I haven't read the whole thing yet, but so far he's been talking a lot about the dynamics of the social circle. I've never been a fan of things like social circle game. I've always HATED it and thought it was just really immature. I've believed that people's immaturity within social circles hindered my game. So... I've always hated the clique-kinda shit that social circle deals with.

However, college game does necessitate a lot of social circle game... Reading this so far has been like taking yucky medicine. I don't like it, but I think I need it.

If it's making you stretch and grow and teaching you new dynamics, then no doubt the book is good for you.

Here's a point to remember though, about the difference between college game and night game. Sure, the SPAM is different, just like the SPAM between day game and night game is . . . well like night and day different, lol. But, the core principles, the attraction switches, the underlying factors are still the same. It's just a different surface environment to deal with. So yeah, social standing is important in either setting, it's just applied differently in either setting.

didn't have time to read all the post so sorry if some one said this.

There are a lot of movies about the collage stud man with the parties having sexy girls.

Open your eyes. I've been to collages that i might apply to. There is a hot girl every few feet man. Girls are like diamonds very attractive and over priced. There are so many hot girls. There are only mabye 1 frat Alpha male to ever 12 hot girls probly more hot girls man. There every where. I see about 3 new hot girls every day and my school isn't that big. So what if you see a girl dating the star football player. He hit some switches. She may seem like she loves jocks. Ya because she gets the feelings she wants around them. Think about it. If every time you went to the dentist you got fucked by the dentists hot assistant, in fact not the same assistant a different dentist with a different assistant every time. You would learn if you want those feeling that you get from fucking a hot girl to go to the dentist because thats where you get laid. Same for girls . Say your at the grocery store and a hot girl is there. You still want her and just because she is not a dentist assistant doesn't mean you wouldn't sleep with her. So just because you are not star of collage doesn't mean if you flip her attraction switches that she won't like you and maybe you become good friends and one things leads to another lol.

If you have the time visit another collage and open sets try many ways and go the extra 20% you will learn. Every time you do something right your body will feel warm and good k.

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