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It seems that all this advice really boils down to creating the right emotion for a woman.

Assuming this is true, then what would you say are the core emotions we're wanting to focus on building?

Fun
Attraction
Intrigue
Arrousal
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you forgot emotional connection.. :P

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I'd also include comfort.

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Fantastic question.

Hmmmm...

I would say whatever emotion corresponds to feeling desired and coveted. The trick is making her feel desired and coveted from a place of control, not desperation or manipulation.

With insecure women, they view very aloof guys (men who manipulatively withhold attention) as prime targets. It drives them to seek that attention from them. If they can "conquer" the wall that man puts up, the prize they get is that feeling of being desired. Like they earned it. Otherwise, they question themselves (their beauty, appeal, etc...). These types will go to great lengths to milk validation from men who they consider to be high value (via manipulation, needy behavior, etc..). It's a cycle. The man is often times manipulative with his calculated use of withholding/granting attention, and the woman is manipulative in her own way in trying to get it. Like attracts like.
Daddy issues:1
Honesty and emotional maturity: 0

With confident, quality women, they have the same need to be desired. However, they prefer it if a man is more direct and honest with his approach. But here's the catch: The man HAS to be confident. He has to genuinely go in not giving a fuck whether she responds favorably or not. Any chump can go up to a woman and tell her she's beautiful and he'd like to meet her. But not every man can say that without expecting approval or sexual reciprocation in return. A man who can express his desire and interest clearly, without expectations, is without a doubt more valuable than a man who requires her approval as the carrot dangling in front of his face. His approach/interaction MEANS more (and she can intuitively sense intention via sub-communication). Also, guys who play the "Hot/Cold" game with very attractive, confident women are often discarded quickly.

Other emotions women like to feel:
1). Exhilarating uncertainty and intrigue ("Does he like me? He smiled... I wonder if he has a girlfriend.. OMG HE'S WALKING OVER.").
2) Certainty (as in non-needy commitment).
3) Obviously arousal (which can be triggered a million different things, I swear).

I'm sure there's more. Good question though. I'm putting together my own theories of attraction, and this is one of those questions that's fun (yet challenging) to answer.


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Fantastic question.

Hmmmm...

I would say whatever emotion corresponds to feeling desired and coveted. The trick is making her feel desired and coveted from a place of control, not desperation or manipulation.

With insecure women, they view very aloof guys (men who manipulatively withhold attention) as prime targets. It drives them to seek that attention from them. If they can "conquer" the wall that man puts up, the prize they get is that feeling of being desired. Like they earned it. Otherwise, they question themselves (their beauty, appeal, etc...). These types will go to great lengths to milk validation from men who they consider to be high value (via manipulation, needy behavior, etc..). It's a cycle. The man is often times manipulative with his calculated use of withholding/granting attention, and the woman is manipulative in her own way in trying to get it. Like attracts like.
Daddy issues:1
Honesty and emotional maturity: 0

With confident, quality women, they have the same need to be desired. However, they prefer it if a man is more direct and honest with his approach. But here's the catch: The man HAS to be confident. He has to genuinely go in not giving a fuck whether she responds favorably or not. Any chump can go up to a woman and tell her she's beautiful and he'd like to meet her. But not every man can say that without expecting approval or sexual reciprocation in return. A man who can express his desire and interest clearly, without expectations, is without a doubt more valuable than a man who requires her approval as the carrot dangling in front of his face. His approach/interaction MEANS more (and she can intuitively sense intention via sub-communication). Also, guys who play the "Hot/Cold" game with very attractive, confident women are often discarded quickly.

Other emotions women like to feel:
1). Exhilarating uncertainty and intrigue ("Does he like me? He smiled... I wonder if he has a girlfriend.. OMG HE'S WALKING OVER.").
2) Certainty (as in non-needy commitment).
3) Obviously arousal (which can be triggered a million different things, I swear).

I'm sure there's more. Good question though. I'm putting together my own theories of attraction, and this is one of those questions that's fun (yet challenging) to answer.
I'd also like to add that, from my experience, (with insecure women) it's best to let go of the usual routines and instead act genuine, give compliments and just hand her what she truly wants: exclusive attention. It'll pay off 80% of the time.


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Fantastic question.

Hmmmm...

I would say whatever emotion corresponds to feeling desired and coveted. The trick is making her feel desired and coveted from a place of control, not desperation or manipulation.

With insecure women, they view very aloof guys (men who manipulatively withhold attention) as prime targets. It drives them to seek that attention from them. If they can "conquer" the wall that man puts up, the prize they get is that feeling of being desired. Like they earned it. Otherwise, they question themselves (their beauty, appeal, etc...). These types will go to great lengths to milk validation from men who they consider to be high value (via manipulation, needy behavior, etc..). It's a cycle. The man is often times manipulative with his calculated use of withholding/granting attention, and the woman is manipulative in her own way in trying to get it. Like attracts like.
Daddy issues:1
Honesty and emotional maturity: 0

With confident, quality women, they have the same need to be desired. However, they prefer it if a man is more direct and honest with his approach. But here's the catch: The man HAS to be confident. He has to genuinely go in not giving a fuck whether she responds favorably or not. Any chump can go up to a woman and tell her she's beautiful and he'd like to meet her. But not every man can say that without expecting approval or sexual reciprocation in return. A man who can express his desire and interest clearly, without expectations, is without a doubt more valuable than a man who requires her approval as the carrot dangling in front of his face. His approach/interaction MEANS more (and she can intuitively sense intention via sub-communication). Also, guys who play the "Hot/Cold" game with very attractive, confident women are often discarded quickly.

Other emotions women like to feel:
1). Exhilarating uncertainty and intrigue ("Does he like me? He smiled... I wonder if he has a girlfriend.. OMG HE'S WALKING OVER.").
2) Certainty (as in non-needy commitment).
3) Obviously arousal (which can be triggered a million different things, I swear).

I'm sure there's more. Good question though. I'm putting together my own theories of attraction, and this is one of those questions that's fun (yet challenging) to answer.
I'd also like to add that, from my experience, it's best to let go of the usual routines and instead act genuine, give compliments and just give her what she truly wants: exclusive attention. It'll pay off 80% of the time.
Huge mistake. Giving her what she wants lowers your value. But if you're getting 80% with that...you need to write a PU book because it goes against PUA law.

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there's nothing wrong with giving a girl appreciation and recognition...unless it isn't genuine.

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there's nothing wrong with giving a girl appreciation and recognition...unless it isn't genuine.
There is something wrong with it when you are giving it to her in order to pick her up. Appreciation and recognition are rewards for good behavior. If you're doing it in order to win affection, it's an AFC move.

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there's nothing wrong with giving a girl appreciation and recognition...unless it isn't genuine.
There is something wrong with it when you are giving it to her in order to pick her up. Appreciation and recognition are rewards for good behavior. If you're doing it in order to win affection, it's an AFC move.
If you are worrying whether or not what you are doing is an AFC move, odds are you are an AFC.

Women are all different and in turn need to treated as such. The true pua knows this and should turn on the charm when it is in the best interest of the seduction. Im not saying to go around complimenting woman everywhere and every time but ultimately all women seek this form of attention and validation ( otherwise they wouldnt work so hard on looking good and a prime example is women doing it to one another, you see this very often in groups of female friends)

The question should not be whether or not to give such attention, the question should only be WHEN to give such attention. With enough experience, you'll learn exactly when is right and when is wrong.

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If you are worrying whether or not what you are doing is an AFC move, odds are you are an AFC.
So you subscribe to the notion that if you shower a woman with compliments and attention, it will get you 80% of all women? I'm sorry, but I've never seen it happen or heard of it happening until I read this post. It does sound like advice that a single mother or big sister would give to her son or brother. 80% acceptability rate would make this site useless.

I'm not worrying about doing an AFC move. I'm advising against it.

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If you are worrying whether or not what you are doing is an AFC move, odds are you are an AFC.
So you subscribe to the notion that if you shower a woman with compliments and attention, it will get you 80% of all women? I'm sorry, but I've never seen it happen or heard of it happening until I read this post. It does sound like advice that a single mother or big sister would give to her son or brother. 80% acceptability rate would make this site useless.

I'm not worrying about doing an AFC move. I'm advising against it.
Perhaps you should re- read my post. I never once said shower them. I very clearly stated their is a time and a place for such actions. It does not have to be one or the other.

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If you are worrying whether or not what you are doing is an AFC move, odds are you are an AFC.
So you subscribe to the notion that if you shower a woman with compliments and attention, it will get you 80% of all women? I'm sorry, but I've never seen it happen or heard of it happening until I read this post. It does sound like advice that a single mother or big sister would give to her son or brother. 80% acceptability rate would make this site useless.

I'm not worrying about doing an AFC move. I'm advising against it.
Perhaps you should re- read my post. I never once said shower them. I very clearly stated their is a time and a place for such actions. It does not have to be one or the other.
Perhaps you should re- read my post on why I was against giving women what they craved. If you would have understood that, you wouldn't have made your statement. As a matter of fact, I said that there were situations that you would compliment. My comment was based on the 80% statement, which to me doesn't sound realistic.

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Fantastic question.

Hmmmm...

I would say whatever emotion corresponds to feeling desired and coveted. The trick is making her feel desired and coveted from a place of control, not desperation or manipulation.

With confident, quality women, they have the same need to be desired. However, they prefer it if a man is more direct and honest with his approach. But here's the catch: The man HAS to be confident. He has to genuinely go in not giving a fuck whether she responds favorably or not. Any chump can go up to a woman and tell her she's beautiful and he'd like to meet her. But not every man can say that without expecting approval or sexual reciprocation in return. A man who can express his desire and interest clearly, without expectations, is without a doubt more valuable than a man who requires her approval as the carrot dangling in front of his face. His approach/interaction MEANS more (and she can intuitively sense intention via sub-communication). Also, guys who play the "Hot/Cold" game with very attractive, confident women are often discarded quickly. /quote]

I'd also like to add that, from my experience, it's best to let go of the usual routines and instead act genuine, give compliments and just give her what she truly wants: exclusive attention. It'll pay off 80% of the time.
Huge mistake. Giving her what she wants lowers your value. But if you're getting 80% with that...you need to write a PU book because it goes against PUA law.
A lot of Pua law is flawed. On a very deep level sometimes.

For instance, most PUA theory discounts credible evidence that supports that women make judgements about a man's character almost exclusively based on sub communication. As men, we underestimate females ability to notice little cues and nuances within our speech and body language that give our true confidence and character away. They're able to subconsciously pick up our intentions. That's why pretending to be disinterested in and superior to a girl you actually like gets you nowhere (unless she's very insecure). She can see through your bullshit shtick much of the time and tell you like her but that you're putting on an act out of insecurity. This can happen on a subconscious level.

A confident man isn't going to withhold attention because he thinks it will get him laid or protect him from rejection. A cowered does that. A confident guy has no problem telling a woman how he feels about her (via compliments) because he doesn't care if she rejects him or not. Likewise, a confident man isnt afraid to walk away if that same girl became attracted, but turned out to be an insufferable bitch. See the difference?


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A lot of Pua law is flawed. On a very deep level sometimes.

For instance, most PUA theory discounts credible evidence that supports that women make judgements about a man's character almost exclusively based on sub communication. As men, we underestimate females ability to notice little cues and nuances within our speech and body language that give our true confidence and character away. They're able to subconsciously pick up our intentions. That's why pretending to be disinterested in and superior to a girl you actually like gets you nowhere (unless she's very insecure). She can see through your bullshit shtick much of the time and tell you like her but that you're putting on an act out of insecurity. This can happen on a subconscious level.
Not many PUA's argue this. That's a big part of the goal in inner game is about.
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A confident man isn't going to withhold attention because he thinks it will get him laid or protect him from rejection. A cowered does that. A confident guy has no problem telling a woman how he feels about her (via compliments) because he doesn't care if she rejects him or not. Likewise, a confident man isnt afraid to walk away if that same girl became attracted, but turned out to be an insufferable bitch. See the difference?
I can easily say that a man that showers a woman with compliments because he is afraid to lose her is a coward. I can also say a man is a coward because he is afraid to tame the insufferable bitch (which I would never say). My point is, this whole paragraph is nothing but an opinion...which you are entitled to.

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Ive been finding that complimenting a girl/woman on things like her boots (chicks totally dig boot compliments - its probably cause it gives attention to their legs), a particular color she's wearing, a scarf, etc... really opens the door to convo (I do day game btw) the key being that you have to really think its nice.

All the other PUA stuff works best once you're in a convo and needing to adjust. Keep your alpha stance, watch your body language, build comfort, etc...

One other thing: it's a trap to get to caught up in just complimenting as, imo, it inevitably leads to DLV. I try to compliment, get her into the convo, and then steer the convo back to a place of DHV.

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