So there was this girl who was down to do me that I never had the logistics to pull due to timing. Therefore, technically it's not a relationship, but this seems to be the closest kind of place to post this.

Anyway, she hooked up with another guy and doesn't want to see me now, stating that she wants to see how things work out with this other guy and doesn't want to see any guys because of it, and doesn't answer my texts anymore. She had only been in one relationship ever previously, and she knew I was having sex with other girls, which probably didn't help my case. Anyway, so this is my target that I'm gonna try to turn it around with.

Usually the thing to do would be to go cold and not contact her for 3 to 4 months, which is likely the time-period that her relationship would die, but I had an idea to try something else:

I know this one girl who is really hot (model looks) who is willing to approach my target and pose as a jealous ex-girlfriend of mine, stating that she hired a private detective and has reason to believe that my target had a relationship with me. She would ask about her relationship with me, she's willing DHV me stating that I'm the best guy, and accuse my target of being in love with me or trying to seduce me, and tell my target to stay away from me, because she loves me, etc.

Anyway, I'm wondering if using this hot girl to approach my target have any kind of effect? Or what would be the best way for this hot girl to approach her and handle the situation?

I believe at the very least, that this would prompt my target girl to text me, stating that she was approached by an ex-girfriend of mine, which I could then text back:
"Are you joking? Haha. What's wrong, did you breakup with your dude already? Come over and I'll give you a dance lesson, you'll feel better!"

She'll probably reply to that "I'm not joking, I'm serious."

At which point I could reply, "where are you? you have to tell me what happened."
and then meet her and seduce her at that point.

Seems like a shoddy plan though, but I like the idea of using this hot girl willing to do whatever to make something happen. And a hot ex-girlfriend approaching my target would at the very least definitely raise my value in this girl's eyes. Anyone have a good idea on the best way to implement such an insane plan to be successful using a hot girl co-conspirator?

LMAO. Please....do it and let us know how it goes.

The plan which you have given, looks good. But I suggest to be honest with yourself. I mean, you should make yourself assured about your liking. It should not that while trying this technique you started liking the hot girl and forgot about the target.

Anyway, good luck.

This is absolutely retarded.
This is when you move on and find another girl, this is the most ridiculously elaborate plan and it almost certainly won't work or will backfire in some way, all to try and get some girl who is seeing somebody else. That's insane and will make you look incredibly creepy.


But at the same time, I am kind of curious to see how it will play out...

You sound eerily like my psychotic obsessive ex. Honey, is that you? If so, I'm going to tell you flatly - the answer is NO. You BLEW IT in NOVEMBER. It is February.

If you're not my ex, don't act like him.

Do it and post the results in detail. Either way it's a win/win situation.

How many guys can shoot the shit and say they did that? Not many! If it works... Haha. Brilliant.

I've actually decided to change my plan.

I'm sending this model hot girl in. She's will approach this girl posing as my ex-girlfriend, stating that she hired a detective to track down every girl I've ever had contact with. She will state that I have not been responding to the last 10+ girls texts or phone calls she's approached thus far. She will ask the girl (target girl) if she is my girlfriend, and when the girl (target girl) says "no" she will beg the girl to send a message to me stating that she loves me and never meant the mean things she said, she will also praise me saying I'm such a strong man, blah blah.

I'm not gonna respond to the text for 2 days. My response will be:
short.

Then the following week another girl will approach her and say that she heard that the target-girl has a communication channel to me. The girl will beg the target girl to send a message to may stating she is such a big fan of my music (I really do music). The next week a guy claiming to be a movie producer will approach her asking her to get a message to me. The next week something else.

The goal is to raise my value as high as possible in the target girls eyes, so when she does get a short text from me it's intimidating. I give it until May or June for the target girl to start having issues with her bf, but I won't know for sure. During these months I will invite her out for a dancing lesson, then seduce.

If you're going to do it go with the original. You're romanticising this plot of yours in your head when the realistic outcome is your friend is going to be told to fuck off and she's a freak. The second post you posted is basically going overboard and becoming fucking weird.

If you're going to go with this "routine" you just want the other girl to know more women are batshit crazy about you. All that is required is a hot chick going up to her asking if she's seeing you because the hot chick/model is still crazy about you. Keep it short, throw in the detective line and then deliver the whole "best guy ever" bullshit then leave. Anything beyond that is just romanticising it and will come across as really fucking weird(Even though it already is!)

Really? I kind of like the 2nd concept better.

Both are hilarious hahaha

Ya know what? I love the updated plan. That sounds like it can't fail. And it shows her how powerful you are. Girls listen to that, and it makes us wet. Tell us how it works out.

Actually, I decided to go with the first plan, and see how that goes.

This girl doesn't answer my texts at the moment, so I don't expect any success, she's probably wrapped up in some other guy.

When this other girl approaches her at her workplace (a bar), I imagine the target girl will be shocked.

I'm gonna have the girl on my side say it to her say it like this:
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Ask for target girl at the bar.

Just give me 10 minutes. -Beg for her time.

It's about my ex-bf. I hired a private detective to track him down, and I've been approachhing every girl he has recently had contact with in hopes of getting a message to him. The 11 girls I've talked to so far all no longer have contact with him, they text him, they call him, they email him, and he never answers or responds.

I know you have been in recent communication with him.
Please be honest with me, are you in contact with him? Is he your boyfriend?
I won't get mad if he's your boyfriend, I don't care if he has a girlfriend, just please just be honest with me.

What's his name?

She says my name.

He's not my boyfriend.

Are you telling the truth, he is not your boyfriend? No.
How do you know him then? Blah blah

Do you have contact with him? When is the last time you saw him, spoke with him? Called him? Had text communication with him?

OMG, he actually texts you!

He's such an amazing man, I've never met a guy like him. He's so masculine. I know he got very depressed recently, his pet died, he started drinking a lot, and his personality changed to being very weird, and he broke up with me.
It was only for a year, but our relationship was so amazing, the time I spent with him was the best time in my life. I got mad at him when he was sad, I was selfish and didn't understand his feelings, it was totally my fault, I felt so terrible, I've bounced to different boyfriends but it just wasn't the same.
I need to get a message to him. I need your help! I want him back! Can you help me please!

I don't know. No. I have nothing to do with it. I don't want to get involved.

But he messages you! Please! Look, please just tell him (name of girl working for me) loves him, tell him I just want to see him again to explain my true feelings. Tell him I understand that he went through, a bad time, and I want to cheer him up!
I'll pay you! I will kill myself if you don't.
He's not like other men, he's really a very special kind of person. The time I spent with him, it was so. He would make such a good father.
I can't imagine life without him. Our relationship wasn't perfect, I was okay if he wanted to see other girls. He did want to see only me at one time, he was ready to give up all other girls, but I was so mean to him. I feel so terrible about it now. He's been hurt by many girls. I understand him now! He's not the kind of guy that is desperate for sex at all, he had sex with me more for my pleasure than for his. It was amazing. He just wants real love and he doesn't know how to find it, I never gave that too him, I was too shy. I want to change it, I want to give that to him now. I want to tell him my real feelings. He's so emotional, his feelings get hurt so easily now, he needs to be handled very delicately, but he's really such a strong man, and a genius! He's like a celebrity you know. I want to marry him! I want him to raise my kids.

Please tell him my feelings! Tell him I found you. Tell him I hired a detective, tell him my message.

Beg beg beg!

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This model girl is pretty persuasive, I bet she can stir something.

I'm still thinking how I should handle it when I get a text about this from the target girl.

If any thinks of anything I should be adding to make this a more interesting or effective situation, then please let me know. Thanks.

You should have her arrive by limo or helicopter. That will raise her value even higher...which automatically raises yours. Once she's out of the limo or helicopter she should sit in a chair and have 4 buff guys carry her in to talk to her. After thinking about it...go with the limo, otherwise it'll seem a little too contrived.

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That's a good idea. Problem is the target girl works in a the back of a bar, so she wouldn't see the limo.

I like the idea of bodyguards.