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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:27 pm 
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You`ve spoke about micro and macromanagement in the interaction.

Some puas say stuff like if you are doing that, you are doing it wrong. Simply because you are getting too much inside your own head.

Do you believe it to happen to?

I mean: even AA is getting way too much inside your own head. Comming up with absurd ideas of the girl rejection you before you even go there an say hello.

And just to capitalize this interrogatory a bit more (lol :P), I want to ask something about inner game: is there a way to develop a core confidence rather than a situational one?

I have my space, I have my place were I can be really myself, totally confident about who I am, what I do, etc.

This tends to change as I change the venue, specially night clubs. Took me a while to realize after reading some field reports of mine that I experience a great load of anxiety of being on a nightclub.

Only numbed by alcohol, a thing I quit some time ago.

So now I want to feel like fish in the sea, but in every single part of the sea. The man that I want to be does not suffer from anxiety of being in one particular place, surrounded by a particular type of women. Fuck that.


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Hey Chief,

Ok so I don't know if its a case of me getting perhaps too drunk on nights out but I'm unsure whether my game isn't as good as it was. Going through a month dry spell SPAM, I'm fine with approaching girls, I just think its my escalation part and closing them which is where I'm coming unstuck. What do you recommend to do in these situations and perhaps the best approaches here? I'm thinking perhaps I should just grow a pair and be sexual when I'm with them even without the drink as I probably slur my words when I've had too many?

Thanks
Hardcore PUAs say "NEVER DRINK WHEN DOING PICKUP," and there's a very good reason for that.

Refer to my article, "3 Confidence Crutches You Need to Stop Relying On" here:
http://chiefpua.com/confidence-crutches ... ith-women/
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1. Alcohol
This one is way too common. “Liquid courage,” they call it.

We all know why you take that double-shot of Jager or that Tequila Slammer before you even think about approaching that hottie over there across the bar. You’re scared of getting hurt and you want to numb the fear.

We all know the obvious first risk of relying on alcohol when trying to pick up chicks – you become a drunk dumbass. It’s a very unattractive sight.

Let’s give you some benefit of the doubt. Maybe you’re not “that guy.” Maybe you just use this liquid courage to get very very lightly buzzed so you don’t end up looking like an intoxicated fool. Well, I’ve got bad news for you, pal. That’s still not a good thing for you.

I see this happen over and over again. The guy who relies on alcohol ends up being dependent on it to talk to women. Sobriety becomes their pickup kryptonite.

The end result of that path is even more pathetic than the guy who gets totally smashed one time and ends up hitting on all the bartenders.

A man who relies on anything external like alcohol to do something as basic as talking to a woman is not really a man at all.
I'm not surprised that you've hit a dry spell. When you learn to depend on alcohol to talk to girls, the base level of your natural ability to talk to girls just gets worse and worse over time like a muscle atrophying. So, naturally, your performance while drinking gets progressively worse as well, especially when you feel like you need more and more alcohol to get the same level of confidence you're used to getting when you hit that bottle.

It's important to remain very cognizant of your sexual escalations because of the need to calibrate and microcalibrate. Being drunk really hinders your ability to calibrate and microcalibrate. It's also harder to pick up on those green light cues women give you so you know it's a good time to close.

Hit on girls when you're sober and save the drinking for its own enjoyment.
Yeh I guess you're right the drinking really does hinder the escalation. So what do you think is the best way to escalate the initial opening in order to build the sexual tension? I'm fine with the opening and the sexual tension part but I think it's my escalation in order to get their mind in that frame to..

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You`ve spoke about micro and macromanagement in the interaction.

Some puas say stuff like if you are doing that, you are doing it wrong. Simply because you are getting too much inside your own head.

Do you believe it to happen to?

I mean: even AA is getting way too much inside your own head. Comming up with absurd ideas of the girl rejection you before you even go there an say hello.
Yes, of course. Overanalysis often leads to paralysis. The key is to prioritize action and risk-taking over rumination and risk-aversion.

Microcalibration, however, is NOT about overthinking anything. Microcalibration is entirely a matter of quickly reacting to shifting levels of social value and maintaining a progressive level of it for yourself and of the woman you're talking to.
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And just to capitalize this interrogatory a bit more (lol :P), I want to ask something about inner game: is there a way to develop a core confidence rather than a situational one?

I have my space, I have my place were I can be really myself, totally confident about who I am, what I do, etc.

This tends to change as I change the venue, specially night clubs. Took me a while to realize after reading some field reports of mine that I experience a great load of anxiety of being on a nightclub.

Only numbed by alcohol, a thing I quit some time ago.

So now I want to feel like fish in the sea, but in every single part of the sea. The man that I want to be does not suffer from anxiety of being in one particular place, surrounded by a particular type of women. Fuck that.
I oftentimes ask dudes, "What are you good at?"

Having confidence in what you're good at gives some great situational confidence, but you can let that give you core confidence, too.

I've proven to myself time and time again that, if I really make an effort, I can get good at anything I want to get good at. It's all a matter of practice and time. That's a sort of mindset that gives you both humility (accepting you are not great at whatever new thing you're doing) and confidence (accepting that you WILL be great so it's no big deal right now). Thinking this way takes the nerves away!


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Yeh I guess you're right the drinking really does hinder the escalation. So what do you think is the best way to escalate the initial opening in order to build the sexual tension? I'm fine with the opening and the sexual tension part but I think it's my escalation in order to get their mind in that frame to..

Thanks
As I've said in both my PUA Starter Course and my ebook, Attraction Arsenal (free bonus with Seductive Introvert), kino escalation is the number one most important outer game aspect of a pickup.

You need to get touchy-feely. You need to risk sexual rejection. You need to risk physical rejection.

Compliance test through the compliance ladder in physical ways.


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doc chief

my question how the fuck do I get over an ex/obsession.

Since we broke up Ive slept with nearly a hundred women. I still think about her before I go to bed even if Ive just fucked another girl.

I am generally repulsed by women and just sleep with them for the sake of making me feel a little better/ another notch on the belt. I do my best to please them and make them like me, but once Im done in sex I dont care for them anymore.

I hate the thought of dating other women except her. they dont interest me, or on the rare ocassion I will see a girl on multiple dates I will ruin it generally on purpose. I have trust issues now too.

Im an adult but this is just one of those things I cant let go of.

I am living the dream but at the end of the day I am worried Ill never be happy with family kids etc.

Im 23 so is this normal behaviour or Is there something wrong with me?

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Hi Chief

I really have a lot of questions to ask, but for now I will only ask what I think the most important . I already posted some of these questions in the other topics but I still didn't get the right answer(the PUA answer). I'm glad I found this :D Iam really thankful you made this thread sir. :D

So here are my questions

1. In club game as of now, I'am doing the the tap on the shoulder or elbow opener then say hi. Can you give me other ways to open a set in a noisy club?(iam looking for opener moves not opener line btw :D .) Like how you open girls that are..

a)leaning towards the bar(lets say she is buying drinks, doing her cellphone, talking to her friends)

b)dancing

c) siiting/standing in front of the bar looking towards the crowd.

d) Girl standing that her back is facing you.

e) Girl that is talking to talking to her friends( lets say a 3 set)

2. What to say while you are walking or driving to her place and you know that the two of you will have sex? I would like to know the romantic and naughty approach.

3. What do you say or do right after sex, that will make feel that she is not a slut?

4. The girl asked, "So what's our relationship?" How to answers this the PUA way?( I want to answer yes of course haha!) :mrgreen:
Story: I'am seeing this girl for 3months 1week, we had dates, and we already slept together twice. then on our last date she asked me this question.

Really Thank you Chief :D


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Chief:

I`m such a high energy guy dude, most of the times I get called on it as if it were a mistake.

A plain example is that yesterday, after returning at work for being ausent two weeks, one of my female friends told me: You know? After not seeing you for two weeks I can now say you are a ball buster.

This comes after me talking the shit outta myself.

And it`s not the first time that happened, people around here is always low energy or that`s my take on it.

I like being how I am, in order for me so low energy probably takes a hard training of boxing, a shower and being around people to match their level.

I don`t like pushing myself to make other people happy, specially when I don`t give a shit about them; but I have to admit this is limiting my develop on pua.

So the question: Is there any method that directs this issue and if so, does it teach you how to apply it on your advantage?

Thanks.


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Sorry for the wait, gentlemen. I've had my hands full, but I will always answer all of your questions eventually!
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my question how the fuck do I get over an ex/obsession.

Since we broke up Ive slept with nearly a hundred women. I still think about her before I go to bed even if Ive just fucked another girl.

I am generally repulsed by women and just sleep with them for the sake of making me feel a little better/ another notch on the belt. I do my best to please them and make them like me, but once Im done in sex I dont care for them anymore.

I hate the thought of dating other women except her. they dont interest me, or on the rare ocassion I will see a girl on multiple dates I will ruin it generally on purpose. I have trust issues now too.

Im an adult but this is just one of those things I cant let go of.

I am living the dream but at the end of the day I am worried Ill never be happy with family kids etc.

Im 23 so is this normal behaviour or Is there something wrong with me?
You're going through a bitter phase and you're looking for fulfillment in mostly the wrong places (as opposed to "lookin' for love in all the wrong places").

The classic "GFTOW" (Go Fuck Ten Other Women) advice/prescription for oneitis may have a nasty side effect of learning to objectify women (if you approach it from the wrong mindset), which ultimately causes more problems for you than it solves. That's exactly what's going on with you.

You may think that you can get over your ex by sticking your dick into dozens of different vaginas, but you're still feeling obsessed and unfulfilled because you're not finding that special "connection" you felt with your ex in the past. You're trying to replace an emotional need with physical stimulation.

The true seducer knows how to enjoy his time with a lover in all manner of ways: physical, mental, emotional, and sometimes even spiritual. You've got the physical part down in terms of knowing how to begin that sort of relationship, but you're lacking in everything else. You'll also find that you were even lacking in the "physical" department once you've learned to delve in all of the other areas since they're all interlinked.

You have to realize that you're being a stubborn fucktard if you're insisting on shit like "I don't want to date ANYONE ELSE but HER!" This mentality and behavior is exactly like a toddler throwing a tantrum because he wants to play with ONE specific unavailable toy even while he is surrounded by hundreds of other awesome toys.

I teach English to little kids part-time. These are tiny Elementary school kids. In one of the writing assignments I told them to think of any character (cartoon, real life, etc.) to write about, but they all had to pick a different character. ALL of the little girls wanted to pick a princess from the movie "Frozen," with the character Elsa being the most popular choice. One girl chose Elsa, but another girl wanted to choose Elsa as well. I asked her to choose a different character, but she threw a fit and insisted that she ONLY wanted to write about Elsa. I asked her, "Aren't there any other cartoon characters you like?" She said no, only Elsa. Then I asked her, "Aren't there ANY real-life people that you like?" She said no, ONLY ELSA!!! She went on to insist that there was literally nothing in her life that she liked besides Elsa.

This is you.

Snap the fuck out of it because you're a grown-ass man, not a 7-year old little girl. You have to accept the reality that every human being has something special to offer you, something they can contribute to your life, something they can teach you, and some way they can open you up to a new experience in life.

There is really no reason for you to be repulsed by women as a whole. This is greatly immature and childish. You're a grown-ass man. And IMO a pickup artist is someone who knows how to see and appreciate the beauty that is woman, not someone who can con a woman into spreading her legs.

Give women a chance. Let them show you their beauty. Try to connect with them mentally and emotionally as well as physically. Once you start letting yourself accept the diversity of awesomeness in women, you'll be well on your way to find a greater fulfillment than you had experienced with your ex.

Or, who knows? Maybe you'll find yourself in a position where you can build a healthy relationship with the same girl again! You'll find that your positive options and opportunities will multiply once you get over your stubborn misogyny, which is most likely a projection rooted in some sort of self-hate and inability to forgive yourself anyway
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Hi Chief

I really have a lot of questions to ask, but for now I will only ask what I think the most important . I already posted some of these questions in the other topics but I still didn't get the right answer(the PUA answer). I'm glad I found this :D Iam really thankful you made this thread sir. :D

So here are my questions

1. In club game as of now, I'am doing the the tap on the shoulder or elbow opener then say hi. Can you give me other ways to open a set in a noisy club?(iam looking for opener moves not opener line btw :D .) Like how you open girls that are..

a)leaning towards the bar(lets say she is buying drinks, doing her cellphone, talking to her friends)

b)dancing

c) siiting/standing in front of the bar looking towards the crowd.

d) Girl standing that her back is facing you.

e) Girl that is talking to talking to her friends( lets say a 3 set)

2. What to say while you are walking or driving to her place and you know that the two of you will have sex? I would like to know the romantic and naughty approach.

3. What do you say or do right after sex, that will make feel that she is not a slut?

4. The girl asked, "So what's our relationship?" How to answers this the PUA way?( I want to answer yes of course haha!) :mrgreen:
Story: I'am seeing this girl for 3months 1week, we had dates, and we already slept together twice. then on our last date she asked me this question.

Really Thank you Chief :D
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1. I've got just the thing for you to try out.

Did you know that the whole "familiarity breeds contempt" saying is bullshit? Social psychology has shown that we tend to like people more if we see them more time.

Most openers are designed to launch you into a full-fledged conversation with a woman, and so you're probably feeling the pressure to have a bunch of these kinds of openers prepared (both lines and "moves"). Well, nevermind all that stuff.

Don't try to open girls with the intent on having full conversations/interactions. Literally do ANYTHING to get their attention just briefly, even if it's just giving a random compliment while making strong eye contact, then walking away! Or even if you just "accidentally" bump into them a couple of times.

You'll find it easier to have a naturally flowing interaction if you "re-open" after you've already interacted with them in some/any way before. So, don't worry about executing the perfect opener. EVER. Just get your foot in the door. It's all the stuff that comes AFTER the opener that counts.

2. Imagine the two of you walking/driving together to go someplace AFTER you have GREAT sex. What kind of things are you saying?

There's no pressure, you're just being yourself, and you're talking casually and being naturally flirty, right? That's the kind of talking you'll want to be doing BEFORE having sex, too.

3. It's what you do BEFORE you have sex to make her not feel like a slut that counts, and that involves lowering ASD. I lower ASD by making sure she knows that everything between me and her stays between me and her before we ever hook up, so afterwards she feels like she's part of some special secret club rather than some sort of slut. There's a lot more to this, though, and I cover it pretty extensively in my Seductive Introvert program.

4. I answer that sort of question before she even thinks of asking that question. I answer that question before she's even THINKING of having sex with me (maybe). It's called managing expectations. Check out this article for a taste: http://chiefpua.com/managing-expectatio ... ationship/
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I`m such a high energy guy dude, most of the times I get called on it as if it were a mistake.

A plain example is that yesterday, after returning at work for being ausent two weeks, one of my female friends told me: You know? After not seeing you for two weeks I can now say you are a ball buster.

This comes after me talking the shit outta myself.

And it`s not the first time that happened, people around here is always low energy or that`s my take on it.

I like being how I am, in order for me so low energy probably takes a hard training of boxing, a shower and being around people to match their level.

I don`t like pushing myself to make other people happy, specially when I don`t give a shit about them; but I have to admit this is limiting my develop on pua.

So the question: Is there any method that directs this issue and if so, does it teach you how to apply it on your advantage?

Thanks.
The highest-energy person I've ever met was Adam Lyons, and I really can't imagine how that would get in anyone's way! As long as you surround yourself with people, your high energy will be perfect for the purposes of interacting with them all with abundant positivity. We introverts, on the other hand, don't have such a luxury ;)

Just be sure that your energy is consistently positive and you're using all that power to put smiles on people's faces. That'll set you for life.


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Consistantly positive? Where do I draw the line between being a tryhard and actually putting smiles on poeple faces?

It`s time to learn how to develop a better sense of humour? Do you know any particular guy adressing the subject to recommend? Thanks! =)


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It`s time to learn how to develop a better sense of humour?


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Hi chief, questions here

1. On the first date(day 2), assuming that when we met for the first time we had good conversation and a kiss close, is it fine to hold her hand while walking like all couples do?

2. in relation to #1, what if it is an F-close, is it fine?

3. in a scenario wherein for example you were invited by your girl(let's say you just met her 2 weeks ago, still not girlfriend) to a party in a club, together with her friends(boys and girls) in a VIP couch/table, what are the right things to do in these cases, like how am I going to demonstrate to everyone and to her the high quality of a man/alphamale/good man for her/their friend?
like who am I going to talk, should I always be beside my girl, should I talk to her more often, should I talk to the girls first or guys, how should I talk to all of them, what topics etc...... things like that.

oh.. and if you don't mind chief, in these scenarios, how do you do it? how do you "PLAY" it?
I really want to know what pros do because I think I will be in this situation sooner or later :wink:

4. In relation to #3, what if the opposite scenario happened, I invited the girl with my friends in club vip table, how am I going to play it?

5. How can I say that my game is solid? like what should I accomplish in doing my game to say that my game with the girl is solid?

there are a lot of tips that say "you need to have a solid game to have an ONS".


Thanks Chief, more power.


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