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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:01 pm 
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I've just started learning to sarge, but I don't live near a big city, and have focused on one community college. I go there on weekdays, hang around for no more than two hours, approach at least five girls, then leave. After two weeks, or 23 approaches, by confidence has marginally improved, and I am taking proactive effort while conquering approach anxiety...boy, is it tough.

Some of my approaches have been bolder than others, but how many does it take before I start losing the fear of approaching?

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 Post subject: Re: Learning to Sarge
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I think this "losing fear of approaching" is a common misconception. there will always be a little feeling in your belly or in your chest before you go up to a girl you find attractive. That's totally normal. The thing that will happen with the time is that this feeling turns from a negative perception to a positive perception and you will start to love that feeling because you changed the meaning of it internally.

I know this is hard to understand when you just start your journey but as you get better you will see what I mean. Unfortunately, there is no easy way to switch this feeling and it requires more and more approaches, which will lead to more and more success, which will eventually lead to less fear.

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 Post subject: Re: Learning to Sarge
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Point taken...I've been leery so far of going up to genuinel hot girls, but I should, because lust is what propels us forward in these instances, isn't it?

I've been going on daily approach quotas, but I just haven't been feeling it.

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 Post subject: Re: Learning to Sarge
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Like Sebi said you don't ever lose approach anxiety you just get better at handling it and more rejection.
When you start its alot of work without much positive feedback. KEEP GOING!!! until you start getting positive feedback. Once you get positive feedback, your more motivated, and keep trying more which leads to more positive feedback, rinse repeat.

It's about pushing your comfort zone. Once you push through to becoming self motivating a whole world that you never though possible will open up to you. But it's very difficult at first. Keep posting an good luck. PM if you want more personal advice. The journey and pain is worth it!


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 Post subject: Re: Learning to Sarge
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I'm pushing on, believe me. Five or more approaches at a time, and confidence improves...some. No break throughs, despite 33 counted approaches, so far. I've heard thatit takes at least fifty army drills, or good simulations, brefore casualty rates drop, so I guess I'm due for a breakthrough, soon.

It was only today that I felt confident enough to ask for my first number, you know? Good looking 7-to-8 Russian student. She had a boyfriend, she said, seemed to be honest (can't ever be totally certain, but I believed her), and I quickly ejected.

That makes only two times I got close enough to even think of number closing. The first time I copped out, telling myself she wasn't hot enough to even try. Man, I've struggled with a brittle ego!

I've just been doing a community college, but plan on trying a mall, for more options. Without a car, and only the bus, I have daygame. I'm also a teetotaler, so while it doesn't rule out bars (I can order something else), it's not a natural fit. Any suggestions as to where I should go?

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 Post subject: Re: Learning to Sarge
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I feel from the tone of your posts that when you approach, the girls sense that you are on some kind of a "mission". Instead, try being the smooth suave motherfucker you are: You just happen to invite the girl into your life for a few moments because something in the immediate vicinity caused you to casually mention something to her almost as an afterthought.


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You may want to move. You ain't living unless you are sarging the Clubs, Bars, Water Parks, Holiday Events, and Outdoor Malls of a big city during Summer.

I am 40 miles out so it is a sweet deal. This Summer will be my big blow out year. Me and my wing are getting ramped up for it. Last year did 100 approaches, got 30 #'s and a cougar GF. What will this year bring when I add a reliable wingman and Daygame? Time will tell.


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 Post subject: Re: Learning to Sarge
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I feel from the tone of your posts that when you approach, the girls sense that you are on some kind of a "mission". Instead, try being the smooth suave motherfucker you are: You just happen to invite the girl into your life for a few moments because something in the immediate vicinity caused you to casually mention something to her almost as an afterthought.
Hm. You're right, I suppose, at coming on too strong. inviting them into my life, though? I'm unemployed, currently, so that's a downer, though I know better than saying that outright.

As to moving, well, I''ve examined the logistics, and the answer is "not now."

Also, I think I'm having trouble escalating. I know, I'm not in a club, but when in set, I'm just talking, but not driving it in a very romantic direction. Starting to know what the "friend zone" is, and want to know how to kino escalate.

I've screwed up my nerves to walk up to girls, sit down, and converse, but I'm having trouble steering it, now, let alone smoothly. Still, I've met a couple of art school chicks, and art types intrigue.

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 Post subject: Re: Learning to Sarge
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I've just started learning to sarge, but I don't live near a big city, and have focused on one community college. I go there on weekdays, hang around for no more than two hours, approach at least five girls, then leave. After two weeks, or 23 approaches, by confidence has marginally improved, and I am taking proactive effort while conquering approach anxiety...boy, is it tough.

Some of my approaches have been bolder than others, but how many does it take before I start losing the fear of approaching?
Look up The Jackal Ronin's team field report at the Field Reports section. 23 approaches in 2 weeks does not cut the grade. Approach 50 to 100 every sarging instance for 21 consecutive sarging instances. You'll learn to calibrate this way. You'll be sharper at reading body language. You'll grow thicker skin.

A good infield coach who can pinpoint your weak areas in body language projection and reading would be a great plus since you're basically blind on how your body language comes across so it's difficult to correct any mistake without a neutral observer (who knows body language) pointing those out.

Of course, you might develop a reputation as the guy who chases skirts around if you focus your approaches only on sexy and beautiful girls. Approach and sarge every one so you don't look like a fucking weirdo. When somebody asks you why are you talking to so many people, just say, "I'm trying to overcome my shyness. Can you help me sort out this weak point in my life? I'll be very grateful for any help you can give."

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 Post subject: Re: Learning to Sarge
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Hm... fifty approaches at a time, eh? I don't want to risk my rep at that college nearby, but I will try a mall at Tacoma, which is a bit further for that. I think I'm ready to take a bolder approach by now, though; I've at least gotten over severe approach anxiety, but it still is my worst issue by far.

I've gotten into a bit of a flirtatious relationship with a trainer at the gym I'm at; She made a point to run her hands over my muscles, and practicall bemanded I call her by name. Dunno how to play this game well, yet, but I'm raring to figure it out.

I'd rather fall flat in my face in front of anonymous strangers than girls I have to see again, and again. In these early approaches, I should focus on opening girls, yes, instead of for looks? Can do. Just know, how should I say I'm being friendly, and trying to work it into my spiel?

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 Post subject: Re: Learning to Sarge
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Hm... fifty approaches at a time, eh? I don't want to risk my rep at that college nearby, but I will try a mall at Tacoma, which is a bit further for that. I think I'm ready to take a bolder approach by now, though; I've at least gotten over severe approach anxiety, but it still is my worst issue by far.
Sounds like a good plan to me. But once you're comfortable approaching and opening, the nearest sarging area is always the more efficient and practical choice.
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I've gotten into a bit of a flirtatious relationship with a trainer at the gym I'm at; She made a point to run her hands over my muscles, and practicall bemanded I call her by name. Dunno how to play this game well, yet, but I'm raring to figure it out.
When a woman feels the hardness of any of your muscles, she's horny. Her pussy is wet. She wants to fuck you. Make no mistake about it. Escalate aggressively when girls try to feel your muscles.
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I'd rather fall flat in my face in front of anonymous strangers than girls I have to see again, and again. In these early approaches, I should focus on opening girls, yes, instead of for looks? Can do. Just know, how should I say I'm being friendly, and trying to work it into my spiel?
Yeah. Focus on the approach and opening. Learn to read approach invitation cues. Learn how to use situational and canned openers. Learn when and how to eject or when to crash and burn.

When you're feeling bold you might want to try some Grandmaster Style, here: how-to-make-a-woman-fall-in-love-with-y ... 89-60.html

Jump to the post "The Value of the Field Test" and the reply to Horrifying's question. You'll learn one important aspect of body language; that is, sensing when a girl is feeling horny and then exploiting that instance to build up the sexual tension.
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...If you're planning to use that as an opener, get some shiny and unique belt buckle to accentuate your crotch. Once you catch the girl looking at your cock area, drop the routine. The impact is stronger this way.

The nonverbal part goes something like this. You spot a HB you fancy. You close the distance like you're looking at something else. You should have a straight posture and relaxed walk. You will catch her looking at you. Look straight into her eyes like you got distracted by the way she looked at you and then watch her pull her gaze down and then bring it up again. If the girl does this, you're good. If not, move on to the next girl.

When she looks down, she can't help but look at your cock area if you have a monster cocking item near your cock (belt buckle, chains, etc.). So when you notice her looking at your cock, bam, say the line like it's the normal thing to say.

The idea is to condition the girl's mind that your presence means sex + fun. Mentally create images of your cock in her mind and make her laugh. You're basically branding yourself as the fun and sexy guy; not a friendzone guy.
Note: If Grandmaster Style does not work for you, try other approaches that are more congruent to your personality.

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 Post subject: Re: Learning to Sarge
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Bro honestly just focus on mastering opening until you feel good about it

break your game up into chunks and master one thing at A time bro.

I personally worked on opening for like 2 months straight man.

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 Post subject: Re: Learning to Sarge
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Expect 1000's of approaches to get any where decent.

Mastery is at least 10,000 hours of doing the same thing.

Nobody has truly mastered seduction because it is such a messy complicated process.

Just a numbers game. Numbers are a your friend.

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 Post subject: Re: Learning to Sarge
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Hm... fifty approaches at a time, eh? I don't want to risk my rep at that college nearby, but I will try a mall at Tacoma, which is a bit further for that. I think I'm ready to take a bolder approach by now, though; I've at least gotten over severe approach anxiety, but it still is my worst issue by far.
Sounds like a good plan to me. But once you're comfortable approaching and opening, the nearest sarging area is always the more efficient and practical choice.
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I've gotten into a bit of a flirtatious relationship with a trainer at the gym I'm at; She made a point to run her hands over my muscles, and practicall bemanded I call her by name. Dunno how to play this game well, yet, but I'm raring to figure it out.
When a woman feels the hardness of any of your muscles, she's horny. Her pussy is wet. She wants to fuck you. Make no mistake about it. Escalate aggressively when girls try to feel your muscles.
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I'd rather fall flat in my face in front of anonymous strangers than girls I have to see again, and again. In these early approaches, I should focus on opening girls, yes, instead of for looks? Can do. Just know, how should I say I'm being friendly, and trying to work it into my spiel?
Yeah. Focus on the approach and opening. Learn to read approach invitation cues. Learn how to use situational and canned openers. Learn when and how to eject or when to crash and burn.

When you're feeling bold you might want to try some Grandmaster Style, here: how-to-make-a-woman-fall-in-love-with-y ... 89-60.html

Jump to the post "The Value of the Field Test" and the reply to Horrifying's question. You'll learn one important aspect of body language; that is, sensing when a girl is feeling horny and then exploiting that instance to build up the sexual tension.
Quote:
...If you're planning to use that as an opener, get some shiny and unique belt buckle to accentuate your crotch. Once you catch the girl looking at your cock area, drop the routine. The impact is stronger this way.

The nonverbal part goes something like this. You spot a HB you fancy. You close the distance like you're looking at something else. You should have a straight posture and relaxed walk. You will catch her looking at you. Look straight into her eyes like you got distracted by the way she looked at you and then watch her pull her gaze down and then bring it up again. If the girl does this, you're good. If not, move on to the next girl.

When she looks down, she can't help but look at your cock area if you have a monster cocking item near your cock (belt buckle, chains, etc.). So when you notice her looking at your cock, bam, say the line like it's the normal thing to say.

The idea is to condition the girl's mind that your presence means sex + fun. Mentally create images of your cock in her mind and make her laugh. You're basically branding yourself as the fun and sexy guy; not a friendzone guy.
Note: If Grandmaster Style does not work for you, try other approaches that are more congruent to your personality.
Hm. When opening, how do I convey flirtatious energy, and when? If immediately, then how? How do I keep it from becoming just a boring conversation sans sexual energy?

Frankly, I'm not a rockstar, and pretty cerebral; I'm willing to be edgy, but joking about blowjobs (sounds like tactic not tailored to daygame, incidentally) isn't me. I'm willing to play with sexual metaphors, given I'm alliterative, but not that crass. Wearing the buckle I might say "See something you like?" though. Little less overt; I'm more amenable to that.

In terms of seduction types, I'd be a Professor, I think, but in terms of functioning as a seducer, what my type would be, I don't know. Hopefully, that's not being too picky, is it?

When it comes to opening (and for now I won't be picky over looks), I've found vocal energy and enthusiasm without kino hasn't led to much, and I'm trying to figure out what to do about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Learning to Sarge
PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:14 am 
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Hm. When opening, how do I convey flirtatious energy, and when?
Learn to eye fuck. All of the how, when, where, what and why are in my How to Make a Woman Fall in Love with You thread.

It's one seduction skill you shouldn't miss.

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