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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

A Sticking Point is:
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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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 Post subject: Need some pointers
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:56 am 
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I go out tonight to a LOUD bar with my buddies, some have read the game and are trying to get into the whole scene and some are just there to stand around and drink and be pissed that there "are no girls around".

I'm just there to try to talk and try to bullshit, nothing big. I go up to to one girl standing there with her friend, who is getting hit on by some guy, she's just kinda standing there left out. I go up and say something along the lines of "Looks like you're getting left out of your own group" she goes, "No" with a look like I just punched a small child. I feel like i screwed it up and kinda slink back to my buddies (who are still standing there in a circle like morons) the girl and her friend stay there and dance but i keep getting eyes from this girl, what was my best play in this situation?

A little later there is a girl with about 5 friends, she looks like the DD, I look at her and lock eyes, and she looks happy about it, i go up to her and ask her about the camera she's holding (it's broken) say
"I thought you were the responsible one because you were trusted with the camera but you broke it, i guess i was wrong" she says lets out a little laugh and says her friend broke it.
I suggest to take the batteries out to reset it, that doesn't work. I say something like you'll need a tech person then and i don't see any, by the way my name is *****.
She says, my name is ***. She doesn't block me out with body language but starts talking with her friends, who pull her up on this speaker that is sitting next to her. I stand there for a minute, then walk over and start bullshitting with buddies. Was she trying to get away or what should i have done there was no room on the speaker and it was too loud to talk with her up there.

Some nights I feel confident and could recover, but tonight i wasn't feeling it. Suggestions on how to handle these situations, and how to build myself up a little bit would be great.
Any suggestions?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:05 pm 
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Anyone?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:46 pm 
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Loud clubs are tough. Hlaf the time you practcally have to scream at the girls.

With your first approach you started with a neg. You two have no rapport. Your a random guy and decide to make a negative comment, so her reaction is going to be short and negative right back. What were you expecting her to say when you made the neg? Was there any kind of game plan or was that the first thing you could say? That really wasnt a good opener. Your next mistake was probably going back to your group of buddies and standing around like a bunch of lions looking for prey. Split away from your group and work the next set.

You could have ran up to her and said "Hey! Ya gotta help me out. I've had this guy hitting on me all night. Dance with me." Then you can fluff on the floor or show off some of your sweet dance moves. If she says no, then you could have said "ahhh i get it. No coordination?" Then she instantly has to prove herself to you. At that point you could neg her and she would probably be more responsive to you than your initial approach.

From just reading your post it sounds like you didn't have any confidence in your game last night. Im not really sure what you could have done with your next target, but talking about her broken camera is probably not tops on her list of shit she wants to talk about on a saturday night.

Hope this helps.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:14 pm 
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thanks, it's always good to have someone else's point of view on things. I actually wasn't trying to neg the first one, but she was shut out and i figured it would at least get her to talk so that she wasn't just standing there watching her friend grind with this dude. I didn't have a set plan but i figured she'd at least say something and i'd go from there.

The one with the camera i really didn't dwell on it, but like i mentioned and you picked up on, i didn't have any confidence, i was tired as hell and wasn't into it.

Thanks.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:58 am 
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No biggie man, we all have off nights. Sounds to me like you got CB'd on your second approach by her friends, so I doubt if SHE was trying to get away.


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