That point I would say is not entirely true. Massaging was a bet I lost so it aint just for that. Kissing is also ok, but she comes back fast once I stop. What realy fucks my brain is that she even blocked me wanting to finger her oO WTF? This way I am meeting her needs not mine. Its like shes afraid of having some hard errection. My theory would be that she was afraid of me getting her off, so she will develop faster feelings for me. Blowjob for me was no problem at all!!! So that could be my needs and she was happy to do that cuz she contributed.

Could it be that she had like once a boyfriend who she felt like strong emotions for and was dumped the hard way? When I date her I am the shit. When we go to a club we rock it and all other dates were pretty perfect and roofblasters in every sense. Like its a damn good place in town and we rock the dancefloor on a skyscraper. Afterwards me make fun that we were the only people having fun at that party. When shes over I tell her some travel stories of my life. When there is a girl on a photo I tell positive stuff about her. Something I can do now after some years of practicing.

Is/Was she afraid of falling in love with me? That moment when she told me she realy liked me was definately the most intense moment when she spoke from her heart and I wouldnt say she acted. However some ex-gf of a friend of mine experienced that. She wanted to kill herself by drinking floor cleaner and had depressions for like half a year. She is a solid HB9.5 and a model but a complete wasteland from the inside.

Before the last date it was like: me texting her to come over and she did. No bla bla or stuff at all. Now she keeps texting me and stuff. Shes definately more reactive than me while I DHV and she is like omg and blubb and your so cool and blubb.
Worked miracles last time. Will do that in the future as well.
When I tell her to bring something for the date she does it. She wants to contribute and is also having some ideas what to do and stuff. Since I am 26 I also see that I know like 10 times more music from the genre she likes. I do my PhD and shes in the 3rd semester. She cant cook, while I can. I am used to learn a lot of stuff by myself. So it pays off now.
Thats something I will also definately try. Had hooked once up with a girl with a past like molestation and she even told me before getting into the relation that she is not the easiest woman.

You got any more hints on what signals I should have a look for?

Ps.: I also cubed her. Was kinda interesting to see that the horse was on the cube and that the storm only messed with the horses head . . . WTF?

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Just by how your talking I can tell your a really
Great guy, your the kind of guy girls say
They want... But not the one they end up with.(usually)
Becareful not to be too nice always have edge
And that frame that if your not
Getting what you want your not going to play nice.
Your letting her control the situation.. You
Continue to take her out and show her a great time
With no sex... You are rewarding her for saying no?
At least u get bj but unless she is incredible at that
It's not the total investiment to her its like sucking your thumb. I would see
If she's will bang you when she's your girl... Ask if she's been abused if no
Then you need to pull back you guys maybe going to fast also..
Thumb.

Remember girls that like it rough have been
With someone rough- ie- bad boy-
Be a bad boy for a night see how she reacts..
I show a girl my nice side always but if
They do or say something uncool do you
Think I go buy them a present or smile
And say oh well- uhm no I will become
This bad boy - what did you say or hey what you
Did is - I'll call her out and she will see a glimpse
Of a dark edgy side... She will then realize
That I'm not a push over and I will check her quick. I use
Examples of this in my work.. I will be nice
But if my employee challenges me or does something
Wrong - I will scare the shit out of them. A guy
That walks with 2 sides is more complete then 1 that's walks with 1 side.
How do you create edge?
Act busy or say I don't have time for you this week.
Don't take her out end the day in a few hours.
Tell her you know what I'm just not feeling u right now..
And tell her to leave.. Show her edge- there's one more
Thing I can tell you- it seems as though she's starting to put more
Breaks on you.. I honestly would have kicked her out after 3-4 times
Of blue balls... Do you know how I kick girls out? I open my door and say
I got to sleep good night- make them drive home in the middle of night
... Bet she will fk next time to stay over

She is 19...Do you really want to F her?Give her time.Be her boyfriend.

Do you want to F her and turn her into the underlying slut that all girls hide?Freeze her out,say you have other plans,chances are she ll be begging you to fuck her,as a way to get her back.

You two already seem to have great fun together,you are a human being before being a PUA,and being a human means enjoying the one life you have...maybe taking some time with this girl isnt a bad thing to do...
I know thats against everything else advised you,but since you seem the guy that I used to be two years ago,having a girl cry over you just so you fuck her,may fill you with guilt.Since you already spent so much time together,invest some more.

Also,practical advises.Make her feel secure about her body,tell her how much you like her boobs,her legs,everything...Make her feel like a goddess,cause confidence kills insecurity faster than you can imagine

Yep, same thing as I thought.

I mean shes 19, somewhat round a 7 and she is realy kinda insecure about a lot of aspects. Also in the club my friends told me that she looked kinda unfriendly and had a high bitch shield. I didnt had any problems with that whatssoever.

1. Language: She was afraid to talk german to me cuz she cant speak it so well. Now she does!
2. When cooking I am showing her what to do and how to do it. Shes even insecure about how to do anything.
3. Choosing the music she says that she doesnt have big ideas so I put my stuff on.
4. She gets confused quite fast and I have to guide her the way and so on.
5. A Woman is a woman but still I can guess that this was maybe her first real seduction which went according to the book like RSD says it. Maybe its a little bit too fast/many emotions for her?
6. Is FC that urgent to get? I mean when we are together naked in bed and I give her a good time so she feels comfortable and she sais bla blubb afterwards and gives me BJ its pretty obvious that there is a sexual tension. I mean I do escalate and I am NOT in LJBF-City.

my sticky point in this:
- Make her feel like a goddess,cause confidence kills insecurity faster than you can imagine

vs.

- Dont tell her how well she looks and stuff. Dont overcompliment her, cuz she gets that 100 times per day?

--> Whats the right calibration?

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I stick to my post,and you should do the first one...Making an already insecure person being more insecure with denial of compliments isnt the right thing to do...Imagine if you were in your down lows,and instead of a helping hand people kicked you even lower...Be the helping hand,and you ll get the favor returned 10 times

I run into a a lot of insecure girls that suck
And get naked but don't f- (sarcasm)listen guys stop
Making exceptions and putting on a pedi stall
Want to know what a girl does when you
Don't f her? She's goes and gets f-ed.
Period-

Hey Guys,

update from my side. I tried yesterday something else and a did a lot of comfort to her. Still the usual teasing and stuff but now with more compliments and stuff. Telling her how much I like her and the usual bla blubb stuff. Not too much before lying naked but more in the meantime. However it worked better than I thought.

Also during the date at my place she started to feel more comfortable. Yesterday it was like 6 hours and she stayed overnight. After some cooking dinner together somehow we landed on the bed after dinner. A bit Kino and we both got naked fast. Now no big block so far . . .
Then I escalate more. Now I found the way she likes the titty massage and I whisper her some dirty things into her ears. Also I tell her just to relax and be free and that stuff. Some more compliments for her body, personality and how fun she is and so on. Then she gives also some compliments to me and that I am totally cool and good looking and bla blubb. I make my way to the pants. Undressing no problem. However again that fucking block . . . How like 2,5 hours of the date passed, she is really into me and the attraction is on its top. So if she wanted security I had a thought I would give it to her.

Hejsan: I had given some thought about last time. You told me that you really like me and I think you’re a cool person. I would like you to become my gf. (Since she mentioned it last time and she gave me tons of stuff how cool I was)
HB: OMG I cannot believe this blab la blubb, I need some tea. (She was also realy excited and emotional before) . . . I need to think about this . . .
Hejsan: Its ok, you don’t need to answer this . . . (holding her in my arms) its all ok, just relax . . .

So I assume I gave her the emotional rollercoaster. I slowly escalate now further and after some time (like 30 mins) she whispers:

HB: I love you so much . . . (or that’s what I understood)
Hejsan: I love you too . . . (after like 30 secs)

Was it wrong calibrated to say that I want her? I tought it would be good when she is on that emotional high point. Its not like that she was on the street and we had bla bla but she was turned on. So I am showing her who the man is and we fight a little bit. I watch out that I don’t hurt her but I grip her firmly. Shes doesnt block my fingering anymore so I do that. I tell her I wont hurt you and tell me how you like it and how she will enjoy it. I finger her till she comes and she is also showing me how she likes it. That’s cool and some major improvent IMO. Afterwards BJ, cuddle and sleep cuz we need to get up in the morning. Also its like we want to do something like watching photos and we dont get to it. So I think its ok?

I mean she blocks now less and still we have a good time together. So still some improvement. I suggested some date on this Friday for Valentine’s Day. However she might have class until late and goes to a good party afterwards I consider going with a few friends of mine as well. On the weekend we suggested to do something depending on the weather. Wait for her to contact me again and keep on dating?

Thanks for your independant answer,
Hejsan

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this is normal and not complicated at all
the second she takes your hand away while you're making out or not letting you fuck her, you just stop. completely, you stop kissing and touching her (keep her in your arms if she's already there btw). like your boner is gone and you're not aroused anymore. you tell her "it's okay" or "that's fine, it's ok" or "i understand", anything like that. and don't get angry, pissed off or sad. you genuinely lost your arousal. now she's the one being horny and she's going to pull you in. you might need to do this a couple of times

the key here is not to arouse her until she's begging to fuck - it works on girls you've already fucked, not in your situation
it's just 2 steps forward, one step back

Update:

Had Sex all weekend, both sides were happy.

When we had Sex:
HB: "Promise you wont leave me."
Hejsan: "I wont"
HB "Lets Fuck"

From what I heard that shes being dumped by some one of her last affairs after having sex. Thus she was careful and a lot of comfort plus flowers on valentines day did the trick. What I experienced her as kinda HD so its cool .
Works perfect and its sooo cute to see her like that.

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Score!!! Its not how you got there just that you got there..guess i was right about the girlfriend thing...