Who's who background

Me (deaf)

my date is hearing (HB9 for her outstanding expressive look)

Story background....

FYI, this gal has never replied more than 24 hrs ...always got her msgs before 24 hrs is up~ I know it is a pure luck for me! ...We had our first date, and it went well. She said that she had a fun time and liked ASL--- a sign language (my strongest DHV). In fact she asked me to text her (just a moment before we went apart).

Right now, I'm trying to set up a second date (guys...the phone option is out of question as I'm deaf and cannot speak...needs some creative solutions or suggestions).

Let's review our text dialogue below ...and give me several options on what to say via text....esp after she said "thank u"---see the bottom of our text dialogue.

To make a long story short....I asked her to set up a date plan...(second date)

She: Hey, sorry I've been extremely busy!

(Next day)

Me: Ok. Ms straight when are u free next?

(Within 20 mins or so ...I didn't time it)

she: I won't be free for the next 3 weeks.

(I replied about an hour later)

Me: Well, then change your plans. I'm certainly more fun than anything in the world...

(5 minutes later)

Me: ...otherwise I'm going to onto other ladies if you are not prepared to make a date.

(within 30 mins or so)

She: I'm sorry, I like learning ASL but I'm not that interested.

(I should have became a better salesman by demonstrating DHV or benefit suggestions on why she needs to learn ASL right after this reply. But I came up with a different idea. I had to say this "lets be friend" first before she does which is very super important....I will save "DHV" advertisement much later)

(About 2 hrs later)

Me: Cool, let's just be friends. I think u look much better with a hearing boyfriend. It is a pleasure to meet u, cheers!

(It is very risky to say a comment about a hearing boyfriend [push purpose]. Here I got her reply within 3 mins)

She: Ok it is a pleasure to meet you, Cheers

(I decided to go for the most surprise element ....by demonstrating my sexual side of myself for a first time...even though we did two hugs [Kino] at the beginning and the end of our first date date, plus I gave a couple of kino moments ....when I first tried to warm her up during a slight cold weather [she remarked it is cold outside]...plus I protected her from a thug looking guy by holding her close to me when we were by)

(approx 30 to 45 minutes after)

Me: Of course hearing like u and deaf like me will never work out together ...but we may have a great passion sex ever! Just a sayin... Good nite!

(Within 5 mins)

She: Why couldn't it?

(That is when I decided to use the pull / push materials in a creative way)

(8 to 10 mins later)

Me: Wow! We must have both think the same thing! (Pull)

(2 to 3 mins)

She: Haha, great minds think a like

(5 to 8 mins)

Me: No, but it is pretty ironic, I cannot wait to see what your other superpowers are. (push and pull)

(Within 2 mins)

She: Haha, me too!

(Within 5 to 7 mins)

Me: Too bad u will never know what it is like to have a passion kiss with a deaf guy like me... (push)

(Within 5 mins)

She: Haha, I guess not

(About 10 minutes later)

Me: Babe, come on now, I know you want kiss or sex, but you don't have to come on to me that strong on the first night. (pull)

(As for the statement from above....it is so true that she was shy....as she is very conservative person)

She: Haha, sorry I'll try and hold back

(At least 5 mins later)

Me: We both know u r CRAVING for me to touch or tease your lovely body...

(Within 2 mins)

She: Haha, oh I am

(A rare double comment coming from her)

She: We both know you want to touch and tease my body

(At this point, I decided to demonstrate why ASL is cool stuff to learn....to show for her own benefits - DVH)

Me: I def love to...but u do not know how to sign a word for kiss, do u? It would be cool to teach u how to sign for "make love," if u r interested now! (push / pull)

She: Nope, but I could figure it out.

( Again, a rare repeated double comment from her)

She:How can you show me now?

(History background: I told her beforehand that I live on Monterey area on POF, but I was in her town in San Diego area. I cannot risk myself to reveal my current location information to her as it looks too needy, plus I want a space for myself as I'm checking out the town itself to see if it is a good match for my taste)

Me: On second thought...I'm holding back....it's def top secret for a moment! (push)

She: Haha, ok

(I decided to test the water by asking what if question)

Me: If I'm in town right now, would u be interested in learning all those love sign words? (pull)

(FYI, the clock showed about 830pm....my gut feeling is telling me that LMR is on the way ...and I was correct)

She: No, it's late and I have to get up early for work

Me: Who say that I'm in town? (push)

She: Haha, not me

(I slightly misused pua's well versed LMR comment within the incorrect situation as she has not said what other gals had said esp this statement---"we shouldn't be doing this." She hasn't said it yet....I'm referring this statement below about getting late as she has to go work)

Me: I know, we shouldn’t be doing this. It is too late. You know what else we shouldn’t be doing? (push)

She: Doing what? What else?

( I realized that I was using the wrong PUA's LMR technique...but I came up something creative to resolve this fast. Although, it sounds like I have a strong control over sex lifestyle at the end of my statement below)

Me: Make love, that is what...but we are doing so fine teasing each other so good! And I like that...so you, too! (push and pull)

She: Haha, I thought we were just having a polite conversation

(I recovered nicely as she laughed and sounded surprised with my unusual comment. Now...I had to relate her in order to make a connection below)

Me: Yes, I agree with u. We r having a friendly chat like u said. No worries. It s all fun talk.

She: Haha, I know

(At this moment, I feel it is good time to leave a "good note" by ending our first-time sexually chat together....as it has been more than two hours. I had to end this convo soon...otherwise she will be first to say good bye to me).

Me: I best go now....but if u r bored one day and want a stimulation stuff like this...,u know where to find me from here.

She: Ok, thank you and good night

(Bingo: I got her where I wanted her to be at the end of convo.)

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At the end of conversation.... I m truly puzzled what made her to say "thank u"....for what? I understand it may be related to having a good time? (this is my best bet...I'm assuming that is what she felt)....if you have a different take ...let me know.

And what is the next step after this? I need a couple of feedback on texting...but it will be my ultimate decision what to write back, not yours. I will do this about a week later ... in order to give her a totally space, plus one for me, too.

I'd like to hear your feedback or idea.

It may sound harsh,but you should have stopped the whole thing when she said 'I am not interested'.

The rest of the answers show that she didnt want to hurt you by totally freezing you out.

Push-Pull is effective on girls that have an interest already,and are best used to get a Kclose or Fclose,not to set a date with someone.Move on,and maybe one day she ll message you first.That will show interest,and then you can use all the great PUA stuff you have learned

Sounds harsh?? That is interesting perspective coming from you...but thank you for your feedback for assessing my situation. In case if you didn't notice, she laughed and sent out double comments before I get a chance to reply...plus a thank you remark coming from her (harsh convo? I think not). Perhaps a slight true in your remark in some area. I kept going because I'm "experimenting" in this case with a rare "responsive" gal to see what her communications are like. I can afford to lose her, tho. Not too many guys have responsive gals here on the pua's board (especially having a hard time to get a reply less than 24 hrs ...not like my case) ...that explains why I pushed around a bit to see what works and what doesn't work.

Yes, I can see that the push-pull techniques is best use during the deep conversation during the dating situations. Texting is a sole purpose to set up a date...that is it. I knew that part, tho.

I'm thinking about seeing someone else (as I went out to the deaf club in San Diego area last Friday...and met two great ladies who know ASL very well). My date that I described from above...has HB3 for legs...but upper body and her face is great. She is shorty that bothers me a bit. I can afford to leave her alone for at least two weeks or a month if I feel like it.

One small side note, I had successfully slept with a different gal ...right after she freezed me out.....some of your PUA's guide principles do not work with me, especially freezing her out. I got back within a week....without waiting for her to reply back! How I do that? I cannot remember the exact words...but I remember saying "Yea, let's be friend"...and asked for meet up within a week later! It is all based on "hush feeling"....deaf people are master of that ..as we can read the body language 10 times better than regular hearing guys. I usually screen out alot of girls as I look for a quiet one and family-like character....as it is my thing.