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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:27 am 
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Pretty much I meet this nerdy cute asian HB8 at this anime convention. I tried to go for the meet up early but she gave me a bs excuse. Then I flirted with her off and on for a week via text till she said she had a bf (long-distance). I said "he's awesome" and "we'll just be friends, but I'll flirt with you whenever I want." I routinely accuse her of wanting me and she always plays along. I'm wondering where to proceed from here. Here's the text convo I had with her last night (not particularly flirty, just me mind gaming her):

Me: you suck at texting and you can't flirt

HB8: my bad lol not my field I plan to expand in

Me: you'd starve if it was. so how do you keep an asian girl

HB8: a bowl of rice and chicken

Me: that's so lame. don't feel bad you didn't get a kiss. it wasn't a date, you gotta work for it


Note:I didn't physically escalate much when I met her but I've been trying to reframe it as I didn't do it because we weren't dating or anything. it's working so far

HB8: i'm a simple person and I don't really care for affections lol I'm a stereotypical robotic anime character

Me: you keep trying to fool me but you can't. either that or i know you better than you know you


when she said she had a bf, I said I already knew, which I figured by her reluctance to agree to a meet up

HB8: I don't know myself lol so it's nbd. that's also my biggest pet peeve, people thinking they know me or at least try to figure me out

obvious shit test, prepare for smash in 3, 2, 1...

Me: but it bothers you more when they actually do

HB8: the act itself is something left to be desired, if anything it should be a complement that someone wants to know you but at the same time it feels like an invasion of privacy. if I want to expose myself to someone I will at my own time and expense, which usually drives people away anyways

Me: Try me.

HB8: I'm not consistent, if that's what you seek, I cannot give

Me: I don't seek anything, and no girl is consistent, but they all have something they need, even if they deny it or don't understand it


She stopped texting, but that's kind of what she does, and sometimes I do the same, so it's not an indicator of disinterest. I'm thinking after getting such an emotional rise out of her, I should back off for a few days and let her simmer in my awesomeness, then re-initiate when she's starved for attention.

But I need an endgame, I don't want to be her text buddy, no matter how much we flirt, forever obviously.


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ok i had just written a long ass response with a very detailed analisis of your situation but when i clicked on submit the fucking webpage had signed me off my account and i lost it all, so this is a compressed version:

first of all i suggest you take a minute to reconsider what you are actually doing. you are trying to break this girl's relationship. i'll teach you how but first think if your intentions are good here.

girls with boyfriends are the hardest to game. they tend to be really sweet, because their boyfriends give them a sense of secutiry and they have no reason to be mean. also their bf tend to make them happy, so they are just nice to everyone as a byproduct.

in this particular situation the girl is not showing you interest. for example:

in your text conversation you keep throwing flirtatious comments and she keeps dodging the flirt:

Me: you keep trying to fool me but you can't. either that or i know you better than you know you (this is a challenge type flirt)

HB8: I don't know myself lol (here she gives up on the challenge, showing you she is not interested in it, and dodging the flirt) so it's nbd. that's also my biggest pet peeve, people thinking they know me or at least try to figure me out

let me tell you what you are doing wrong, and later i'll tell you what 3 steps you can take to fix it.

first of all you need to think about her: girls in long distance relationships tend to love their boyfriends very much. this is why they haven't broken up with them yet.
so lets get to what we are interested in: why do girls in ldr break up with their boyfriends.
there are 2 main reasons, 1) she got cheated on or 2) she is tired of him because he is giving her excuses to dump him: being needy, being overly jealous, etc.

note that both reasons have everything to do with her boyfriend and nothing to do with guys she meets. this is because even if she meets the perfect guy, and he likes her, she developes a very strong resistance to liking him: she has invested a lot in her boyfriend and doesnt wanna feel like that was all meaningless, or for nothing.

so now lets get to what you are doing wrong: even though you said you just wanna be friends, from the way you are being with her (flirtatious) she knows (believe me she does, girls are very very sensitive to this stuff) that if she gave you the opportunity to fuck her, you would.

im not going to judge you cuz i coulndt give less of a fuck, but think about it, you are actively trying to ruin their relationship!

stop to think how this looks to her: you are showing no integrity. you are showing that you dont give a fuck about her or her boyfriend, or even her relationship. thats selfish and profoundly unattractive.

there is no way in hell you are getting this girl if you keep doing what you are doing.

so now lets get to what you can do:

(you better have some fucking good intentions cuz im about to tell you how to break her relationship and thats fucked up enough)

1) you need to stop showing interest for her. treat her like your sister, show her that you care for her but that you have stoped thinking of her in a sexual way. this might start to get her a little confused and wonder why you stopped thinking of her in a sexual way. just the act of wondering will get her to change a little bit the way she sees you.
2) keep flirting but change the flirt type. you wanna flirt with her in a teasing kind of way, remember, she's your little sister from now on, and dont flirt all the time! you are now flirting way too much.
she seems not to give herself too much credit, so one thing you could do is teaser with that. if it doesnt get a possitive reaction wait for when she makes a comment that can be misinterpreted as her showing off, and tease her like she's a showoff.
3) what you want to accomplish is to look like you are a great guy, who cares about others and is very socially inteligent. so i suggest you send her this texts.

YOU: hey, i need to talk to you, have a minute?

HER: yeah whats up?

YOU: well something terrible just happened to a friend and it made me reconsider what im doing with you. see i know i toled you i just wanna be friends but the truth is i really like you, and up untill now i really wanted you to break up with your boyfriend and for you to like me

but a friend of mine just had her girlfriend stolen by some jerk, and now i see how bad what i wanted can feel for the other people involved.

so i feel really selfish now, and just wanted to let you know, i respect you and your relationship, and if you dont wanna talk to me anymore, i understand

she will most defenetly say that of course she wants to keep talking to you, you just came off as the most honest, sweetest boy ever, but now you cant flirt with her in anything more than a friendly manner or you will look like a liar.

i dont know if you noticed but what i want to create here is oportunities for her to "fight in your favor".

so what you wanna do from now is to get her to bring some friends, and organice a group hang out. for this you will have to learn about her and her friends, what they like to do, etc, and invite them to do just that.

you want to be the good guy, the guy all her friends like and trust.

you need to be the guy all her friends tease her with.

if anything ever happends, this is how it has to look for her: one night at a party, in a moment of weakness because the boyfriend is not there, she starts flirting with you, and one thing leads to another, and she knows she can get in bed with you but at the same time she actually wonders if she still can cuz you dont show her interest anymore, so she tries to get your attention, because you are so popular with her friends and she wants to see if she still can get you, but you refuse, so she keeps trying, untill you can no longer resist her temptation and give in to her, and basically, she wins.

for anything to happen, as casanova said, you need to be the flame, not the moth.

hope this helps bro its really a short version of what it was cuz i lost it all, so if you have any further questions, just pm me.

jason

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