We had a grest relationship, wanted to get married, all that shit. I began showing beta traits like a fool. This girl is very high value. She cheated on me and dumped me for another guy. I freaked out like a little bitch!!!!!! I went on a drinking and coke bender and texted her like crazy. Became very depressed and toldher the dumbestthing ever. That I wanted to kill myself..it was the drugs talking..I then left her alone for a week, wrote her an email saying that it was cuz of coke depression. I have since stopped drinking and smoking oot complelty. I cleaned my nasty house and have made major self improvement. Waited another week or so and got her to go to dinner with me. On the phone she said she missed me like crazy and she cried. We went to dinner and actually had a fun time. I kissed her at the end of it. Then we didnt talk for another two weeks. She became cold. I was stupidly chasing her, just a little
Well, a couple weeks later she all of a sudden called me and rushed to my house. She told me that she was dating this guy and that he didnt tell her that he was actually married! And seperatdd and that he was gonna try to get back with his wife. She got mad and punched him in the face lol. So I became her beta emotional tampon, I told her I wanted to get backtogether and I love you and all this shit...she became cold. I took the retared advice of a relationship counselor dick who told me to write a love letter to her. Giant mistake...it just made me seen pathetic and needy. It wasnt that mushy, he rewrote it but it msde me seem like I was chasing her..well, after a few days, shes said that she doesnt want to see me and that I made her uncomfortable and that I was wearing a mask around her. I told her, youre right, ive been kissing your ass and im not gonna do it anymore. Heres all your shit you left at my house, I wasnt mad, I just acted alpha and then she said that she wishes I would have made these changes when we were together. I told her that I changed for myself and not for her. She also said that she is seeing that asshole again. I dont think it will ever work out with them lol. Anywyas, a few later, I called her up and told her that I thought we were best friends and that it was a good thing that we broke up and hopefully we can remain friends, then I pretty much dumped her. Icalmy explained that I am strong and confident and rich man and that I there used to be a time that I loved her etc but I cant do it now goodbye. Im sureit surprised her. Im gonna enter NC now. I tried to make her think that im a greatguy and that its her loss. Hopefully she will miss me and call me up. Especially because chances are that her instant rebound will fail. What do you guys think? I have been bangjng new hot chicks and feel like I no longer put her on a pedestal. Whats the next move? She said at the dinner she really wanted to work it out etc. Think it will work? Or was that the final nail in the coffin? Thqnks guys

She cheated on you and is with another guy. Move on and find a better woman. If this is the best you can do that's sad.

Dude, I agree. Ive fucked abiut 50 chicks and never was so awesome. The shit thing is, I think she may be the best I ever get. Frankly, everyone was amazed I was with her, she is kinda like an alpha female, stunning beauty, increbly kinky and LOVES anal etc. Funny personality etc. In all honesty, im a great guy and am shockingly succesful etc but she may be out of my leauge. Ultimately, its her loss. Cuz I am funny, very handsome, cool cars etc. I KNOW for a fact that she isnt gonna find as outgoing guy as me. Bitch. Anyhow, im to the point where I want to get her back and manipulate her punish her for her betrayal..I feel better that I was the one that dumped her ultimately. I am hoping she reads my fancy love letter and feels like shit. Iwill continue being a pimp daddy for now but I will keep her in mind. This ho needs a lesson. Dude, think about it. What other guy is gonna take her to hawaii etc? She will end up seeing me as high value when she learns how much her afc bedwarmer isboring and sucks.

It's not that you were beta, its that she had an unmet need so sought out other avenues for having that need met.

When she dumped me, I acted like a beta bitch. I begged her, worst mistake ever. I was drunk. Now, I have a question for you guys. Since our breakup, I have improved myself a ton. Quit drinking and smoking, cleaned my nasty house etc. Now, she sees the changes and understands they are real. I made sure to explain to her that it wasn't just for her and that I'm a grown man who has control of his own life. Here's my question, what do you think she meant by this text?

I just wish that while we were together, that I could have enjoyed the real you instead of having this tainted view of you that I got, mostly from you al ways being high. It hurts me that you didn't change until I was gone. I feel like you thought that I would just stick around no matter what, so you didn't care how I felt. But only when you realized that you were losing me did you care to change.


Wtf?! I feel like she is kind of speaking in a riddle. "The real you" almost makes it sound like she likes me more now than then. She's right though, I would have never changed if we didn't split. I see it a blessing in disguise. Anyways, I've ended telling her that "I used to love you, I wanted to marry you (lol), but now I just cant. I completely agree with the breakup, I think we should be friends down the line. We both agreed that we would.miss each other. So ultimately I dumped her.what do you guys think that will do to her? I mean, she's been ambivilant towards me and rebound guy. II. Now freezing her out, I am hoping it creates a strong sense of loss.

I'm not clear on your intention.

Are you trying to get back WITH her? get back AT her? or are you unsure about WHAT you want?

Both lol. I think I have a good chance. I'm pretty much using the ex2 or Pete method.

Second here with the confusion

My take is this: As you said it's a blessing she left so you fixed things about yourself. Now continue doing better. You got her when you were low, so now that you're higher, you can do better than her. Get the girls you couldn't have gotten they way you were.

Regardless of who or what you were when you were with her, she CHEATED on you. She has already shown that she WILL CHEAT on you when her needs are not being met. She has already shown that SHE CAN BE DECEPTIVE with you. Now that things are better, I'm sure you can work her and get her back. You can do all the alpha things and feel her being back in love with you. But why? When/If things go bad for you and you aren't alpha she will cheat again. If you lose your job, she will cheat again. If your mom dies and you get depressed she will cheat again. A good gf would stick with you, try to help you and if she can't, she will break up before cheating on you. She is a CHEATER. There are many tactics and tricks and jealousy games you can play and get back with her right now. But she's trash and you'll only hurt yourself in the future.

If you could get her when you were shit, you can get better now that things are improved. I'd tell her fuck off, delete and block her and move on. She's trash.

I'm hearing that you aren't sure what you want. Can't really be of any service to you if you yourself aren't clear on your needs.

Read this about 50 times!

With all due respect to OP, you are not high value, and until you quit acting like a dumb fuck, you won't be.

If you're being honest that you are partially motiviated by getting back AT her, For dumping a fucking idiot who was high all the time, then you aren't ready to date her or anyone else again.

Get your fucking shit together, completely. And when you do have it together and decide you'd like to get back together WITH her, and getting back AT her doesn't matter one fucking bit to you, then come here for advice.

Until then, focus on yourself, not her.