This is my first post on this site after lurking for a while. I figured why not start posting to see my progression and to get critiqued. A little bit of background on me I'm a 19 year old aspiring musician from Detroit (go bankruptcy!) Lol. I've been studying game for about 5 months I'd say. Enough with the usual crap lets get into it. Over the summer I thought I was the next cassanova, rico suave, etc. All of this confidence gained from me internet sarging. And I'll tell you all I got number closes and nudes, but can you guess how many k or f closes I got? Here I'll give you a hint what's the number between 0 and 0? Exactly I failed. Fast foward to the present. I started cold approaching (daygame no car. Working on that.) And so far I've gotten two numbers. And before I post below I wanna ask for forgiveness I'm a noob I just want you all to know where my game is currently at. I'm gonna post my approaches that I've done right after this.

"Red backpack"

September 9th I remember it like yesterday. I watched a bunch of infield videos (not baseball super noobs):p.

Anyways I had it set in my mind that no matter what I was gonna approach a girl preferably one I found attractive and start a conversation. I let my AA get the best of me and I lolligag around until I enter the bookstore. And then I seen her we'll call her "red backpack". She had long brown hair with green eyes and that's when my brain clicked "go after her Kos" my mind "but what if she rejects you?" I knew either way I had to react fast so I bought a bottle of aquafina (yuck) and stand in line behind her. Initially I go yeah I'll talk to the next one then I say screw that she's mines. She bought her items and stayed in gathering up her things while I make a quick exit waiting on her to leave so I can open. I go outside into the campus area and act as though I don't know where to go and see her walk by me I casually follow suit and open her with a simple "hey, how are you?" She responds "good" and keeps walking until I say "OHH, so that's how we are just good no asking me?"

She laughs and says "how are you?" While smiling. I say in a sarcastic Stephen A. Smith tone "I'm actually having a bad day".

Before I continue on it should be noted that for those of us with AA a quick "how are you?" could be a great opener when used effectively. Mostly because when you ask someone how they are doing most of the time they ask how are you back. And if they don't use the opportunity to neg the target call her rude with a smirk on your face. If she still doesn't ask say something that would grab her interest and attention. Always say something other than good, because who's gonna ask why are you good? I always say bad and go into a fictional funny story to build comfort and to get the target to let their guard down a bit.

Back to the fr. She asks why. I use my dog routine and I say "well first of all I go to take my dog out to use the bathroom and out of no where it runs away. And to top that off I run up stairs trying to get here on time and I fall down the stairs."

By this point she's fulled stopped whereas before she was about to brush me off so I've progressed.

Anyways she laughs and says "awh, sorry about your dog hopefully you find it." I go on to say "ohh, so now you're laughing at my poor puppy?" Knowing it was the stairs part. She responds "No, you falling was just hilarious." I go on to get her name and walk her to her class fluff talk on the way there. I didn't number close at that point, however I seen her two days later more fluff talk number close." The conversation was boring so I deleted her number. There will be more and there would be another a week later. I'll post that one later today.

I'm having a problem implementing kino and with AA, but I'll figure it out as I go.

Also gonna make today my week 3. I still have more interesting that happened inbetween that I wish to share.

My apologies I said I'd post everyday, but I haven't even been gaming everyday. Anywho I'm a sticking point and at this point it's very frustrating. Here it is: I open, build rapport (or so I think), number close and then find out that the talkative girl who I met earlier texts for a few moments then just stops responding. That or she's being boring as hell. This has happened in the last 3 (could have been 4 will elaborate on that).

For instance last Tuesday I went up to this HB8 in my class after approaching a week before (only have that class once a week). Anyways I go up to her using natural game (maybe I should go back to my routines?) And we're having a good talk about miscellaneous things she's laughing at all my jokes even the stupid ones. So I took that as an IOI that and the fact that she kept glancing at me in class. I walk her to the parking lot and number closed. Here's how the conversation went.

Me: Hey, it's the best looking guy in your film's class!
Her: Lmaoo, what's up?!
Me: Driving around with my grandma -__- says she wants to go buy one thing comes out with the entire store fmll.
Her: Sounds like my gma, I just cleaned out my car it took foreverrrrr

At this point I wanted to escalate the conversation. There were two more texts exchanged on my behalf involving the car situation and a "lol nevermind then" after she didn't respond to the first one. To which I got the same result. I texted her two days later.

Me: Heyy
Her: Heyyyyy
Me: What are you up to? And you suck!!
Her: Just leaving class and how?!
Me: Because you neverr text back!
Her: I'm sorry, I'm always soo busy. (BULLSHIT I TELL YOU)
Me: It's cool I didn't wanna text you and seem creepy :/ (AFC moment)
Her: Noo, it's fine
Me: Cool, hey umm send a contact i.d picture? No response. Lol, other than the afc moment I don't see where I fucked up at.

Then there is this Tuesday

I see an hot Arabic that I've had a few conversations with I approach we talk for about 45 mins. I'm thinking I got her I asked for the number and as I did so her body language said no but she said yes. So I did what any AFC would do I got frustrated (all on the inside of course) and said you know what? You don't have to give me your number I'll see you around and left. You all have to see it from my perspective. Her body language dictated that she'd be a flake maybe I should have taken the chance to see. But I'm getting tired of the games.

To top this off my college is not the place to sarge at... any suggestions for day game spots?

It's been a while... I'll start off with my progress (If that's what you want to call it). Over the course of me not being on here I've kissed two chicks and fingered one. Nothing major at all. I'm still having problems approaching I pussy out. I mean I catch girls looking at me, even staring if I have my glasses off. Lol I'm like Urkel\Stephon minus the nerd aspect but my sex appeal definitely goes up a few notches when they're off I need contacts asap.

Cold approach is not as scary a thing as it used to be it just starts to become a huge task when you're like me and get minimum results. But dude fuck this dull ass life. I live everyday going through the motions with girl's I'm settling for and not going after what I want.

For instance, I had a hot black chick on my peen. At first she paid me little to no attention until we worked in a group. Then it was regular conversation until the last week of class. Then she started laughing at all my jokes, hitting me in a friendly manner, puttingher leg on mines, and overall just touching me. I didn't pounce on it PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY.

This is it. You all have my word that once my winter break is over and school starts again I'm approaching every day and posting results here.

Okay here we go..

Last Week

I started school did a few cold approaches got no results. I also game via internet (need to stop using it as a crutch) and I met chick hb...6.5-7 with a little gym time she be a solid 7. I met her and after a few custom routines I was at her house telling her I wouldn't ejaculate in her mouth followed by me doing so. She was easy just a hey, how are you? Pretty good. I was scared to message you're too cute. Blah blah, lets hang out and smoke. Meet her then instantly grabbed her tits as I said "you didn't advertise these!" Then proceded to grab her ass while saying "dammit you don't have back pockets?" Arrived at her place with her gay roommate straight to the room we went. She laid down I laid by her looked in her eyes got closer kissed her neck took the leggings off and fingered her. I asked was she any good with her mouth after getting her going (once she's in the zone you can say virtually anything.) She said yes, I said prove it. LOL at the next part I pull my pants down NON ERECT WTF!!!! I say nothing and she proceeds. Lol I think I have porn induced erectile dysfunction or PIED. I'm on day 45 no pmo.

Anyway back to pick up. Yesterday I was at my college and a friend and I made a bet as to who could get a minimum of one number. So, we're both up here and we go into the area where chicks come the most. He sees a few girls but is hesitant. He was negatively affecting my state so I said fuck it dude just go talk. He was still being scared. I was giving him a hard time and then I seen my target walk in. A hb 8 just fucking cute as hell. So I said to him: "look man, you go talk to the girl in pink. I'll talk to that girl right there." He goes: "okay."

So we both took our paths I've been watching a lot of Johnny Berba, SashaDaygame, and Justin Wayne. So I was feeling pretty confident especially because of JB because he shows rejections as well. Anyway.

I walked over smile and said hey, how are you?
Her: *Smiles back Hey! I'm good how about you?
Me: Pretty good, you mind if I sit here? (Next time I cold approach I won't ask I'll just sit)
Her: Sure smiles I don't mind.
Me: So, I seen you from over there (while not breaking eye contact just pointing) and I thought you were cute.
Her: Ha, thanks.
Me: So what are ya reading?
Her: This book for my class
Me: Looks boring as hell! How much did you pay?
Her: I know, it is! And $65! Expensive.
Me: Haha! You paid that much? You could have gotten it for free!
We continued talking for about an hour and I fisted her.. LOLOLOLLL fist bumped that is! I walked her to class and asked if she'd be here monday and to meet me again. She agreed I should have number closed. On top of that the only touching I did was fist bump and the only direct was you're cute. I need to work on escalation. Two more coming right up! All from yesterday I did 3 approaches.

Yesterday continued!

After walking hb8 to her class (come to think of it I never got her name) o.0 I went into mines. I seen this Chaldean girl Hb7 I always see her but I go while smiling l see you everywhere... you're stalking me aren't you? She smiled she's also in my class and when I seen her in there she smiled and said it to me. Potentially a future target. So while in speech class (took it to get over AA and develop killer convo) we had to introduce the person next to us unfortunately my neighbor was a male. So anyway we had to state our hobbies and goals one of my hobbies is music.

So class ends and I was gonna go talk to the stalker chick when this black chick hb7 (GOD I need to move where there are more 8's and up) opens me! "Oh you make music?"

Me: Yes, blah blah.
Her: Me too blah blah.
Basically I walked her to the other building. We talked for a while and she left. In that set though she said she plays star trek. I being the star trek hater that I am told her "let me see your hands." Didn't grab them perfect opportunityfor kino blown. "and said no ring? When are we getting married? She laughed really hard. I also told her I don't do relationships and that sex and ffriendship is perfect she disagreed. When showing her why I said so picture us being in a relationship. She went "I thought you don't do relationships." I said I don't. What I SHOULD HAVE said I don't but you're special blah blah. I'll see her monday too.

My final set from yesterday. REJECTED!!!

Haha, man oh man. I got dissed.

I was the proverbial zone. So I went to approach this Asian chick. The classic hey, how are you? Can I sit here?

We talked for a while she was all receptive to everything. Then I go for the number close... she says and I quote "I really don't wanna give you my number". I go it's all cool, she then exits the set after a few minutes.

Maybe she found me utterly repulsive, maybe she's a lesbian, she told me she was focusing on school as her excuse. Maybe it was true. Who cares though? I got rejected!! So much pressure has now been lifted off of my shoulder. I finally got a stern no I'm not interested in you. It feels good man! That was the only thing holding me back. A fear of rejection. Now that this has happened I feel nothing can stop me! You just wait! Feel free to leave comments and critique me. I will officially start posting my every fr!

"Can I sit here?" is not a good opener. It does not build interest and it asks permission. Nothing wrong with asking permission at the right time. However, she didn't even know you. Good openers make you appear interesting. Then she will want you to sit with her. "Can I sit here?" can work in a situation where you are making eye contact and there is some nonverbal flirting/communication. That way you already have interest.

Likes:
I like your approach to the "How are you doing?" question. It's something that engages the woman can provokes feedback. Maybe it can even provoke interest. I will try to adopt that for my own game.

In short, it sounds like there was no interest in your approach. You were being polite and she was returning the favor. Then, you weren't able to develop attraction before closing. Keep in mind there is no time limit or minimum on these things. You can have moments where attraction is instant at first sight and some where you need a long conversation. Just be aware of what you are at in the interaction.

You are exactly right my friend. I misread the signs when there was no attraction. You have any advice on working kino and building/gauging her level of interest?

now you are talking my weakness. once i get the kiss and start touching, i'm all in. in my personal experience the woman just has so much interest in me that i finally get up the nerves to touch her and kiss her. Also, these are pretty much always on dates and in one on one situations. So by nature, they are already showing interests. However, The stories i've been reading on this forum have shown me that i'm far behind and lacking of game.

My immediate suggestions are ask in the chatroom. if you find out, post the results.
Research the forums for routines and mid-game and closing. I've only started reading this weekend and finding alot of information that i'm going to try soon. maybe even later on tonight.

Talking sexual and failing her tests

So classes ended up cancelled leaving me "stuck" on campus for a few hours. And so I decided that I'd do some approaches and see where I'd end up.

My goals for yesterday were to: talk sexual, try kino, and approach more than one female.

And so as it went hb8 wasn't there. Usually I'd let a potential (her class may have been cancelled) flake kill my state but I remained persistent. I approached 4 females today.

But only one set stuck....

Hb8.5!!! She was a slender Asian chick. I originally seen her walk by and told myself it's mandatory that I speak to her. So after about 10 mins of hyping myself up I got up and went to where she was sitting. I sat down and opened with "Hey, how are you?" She responded good and the convo began. We talked for about 45 mins it was one of the most funniest sets I've ever done this girl was legit the shit.

She started asking me a bunch of questions like: What are you studying? Do you drive? Etc. I didn't think too much of it... -_- Anyway I brung up something about dating and she said she was single. Then midway she says she's in a relationship?! I said "wtf, I thought you were single?!" She later tells me I didn't meet her "line of requirements." A. Undecided in school B. I want fwb or in her words "hit it then quit it . Shit just ain't gonna work." Finally c. Because I wouldn't let her see my phone if we were together. Lolol the way these three things came up it was as if we were joking but she was shit testing me!

Anyway she says her friends are sexy like her and single. I told her I plan on "fucking all of her friends." She laughed. She also noted that if i had passed her tests we'd be friends. I said "with benefits?" She shook her head up and down signaing yes, but quickly said no just friends. She lies! I number closed her. BUT we're strictly friends.. aka I plan on fucking her friends and eeventually her.

Anyway, critique me on where I could have done better. Sorry about errors using my phone .

Curiosity: I'd be really curious what a higher level pua would say abut this. especially, find out what a higher level pua says about how you should have handled the tests she was giving you. i'm curious about this myself as i have not had good experiences with tests from women.
also, you didn't mention what kind of kino escalation took place. did you do any tests of your own? for example did you bounce at all (even move her from one seat to another would have done something)? it's a college campus (i'm assuming). there is food drinks, coffee, deserts, games, and various places to bounce to conveniently and smoothly. that's an instant date. did you attempt to see if she would comply with anything? finally, how was your energy? was it high and exciting or calm and smooth?

Likes: you definitely met your goals of approach talking sexual. it seems that you developed interest and comfort which are the first two stages. i'm not sure about the attraction phase, but if you get her to go out with you even as "friends" then consider that a date and go for it.

Improvement: work on some attraction routines even if it's the basic stuff. I ran the cube the other night and it went really well. you start getting the women to qualify herself and thing about you without even realize what she is doing. do this while doing some kino (ie holding hand(s), grabbing her sides, touching her face, etc) and sitting or standing close. with her eyes close and playing the game you will be setting the mood for an eventual kiss close.

Curiosity: find out what a higher level pua says about how you should have handled the tests she was giving you. i'm curious about this myself as i have not had good experiences with tests from women.

Approaching six girls getting two (zero) numbers -__-

So today I had classes which means I'd be getting out of the house and doing approaches.

So my first set of the day was a tall Caucasian chick with glasses hb7. My friend had tried to talk to her but said she ignored him so I decided to try my luck. When I went to her table she was on her phone, I said hey to her and asked to sit with her she said sure. I sat and we talked and laughed about music and other bullcrap. Wasn't one of my more serious sets. It was merely a warm up. I maintained a good overall energy and eye contact.

My second set was the girl I mentioned earlier hb8 who didn't show for class lets call her "no name". I seen no name and I opened her. We talked and then she mentions her bf. Says she should have mentioned him the first time blah blah. And so I told her ohh I try to pick up girls randomly and asked if she had any advice. She told me that me continuing to be funny will help, not being afraid to approach helps, and that I have very good eye contact and that I should have no problem getting chicks. Oh and aasking if the girl has a bf earlier in the interaction LOL.

My third set was this Honduran chick crazy fat ass with a gorgeous face. Def a 9 the first top chick I've seen up there. She was sitting by herself eating. So I approached said hey, how are you? Talked while standing ask could I sit. We started talking she's new started asking me where was things at on the campus and I walked her to the school store. She left her stuff with me as she bought her items and came out and sat down. She's originally from FL, but moved here with her boyfriend. We were having a good time my friend even joined the set, she was very very flirty. I complimented her on her leggings and she said "these are jeans see look pockets and showed me her ass. I also tried to n close her, but of course she brung up her bf. I told her when they broke up I'd be here when she cries, she said she'd move back to FL. I said nooo, she responded laughed and said she'd move in with me. I said hell yeah! My bed is always open.

Pretty good set I also blew her a kiss before leaving she claims that she caught it.

My fourth set was some random chick I was dared to approach. She was on the phone I told her to hang up she did it! LOL. I number closed within minutes then left and never saved the number. Not my type.

My fifth set was a beautiful black chick. I approached she was smiling hard and gave me her number... or so I thought texted when I got home WRONG NUMBER! Wtf. It's kinda funny but annoying at the same point.

My final set was originally my boys but he pussied out. So I told him fuck it, I'll go and get her. So I approached we talked for a minute then we both left. But i told her the next time I see her I'd come talk. Setting myself up for a future st I'll n-close her soon, that ass was crazy.

Another thing, this one crazy ass girl who I made out with last semester keeps telling girls I'm a player all because I didn't want a relationship. Luckily I don't let opposition phase me and if I weren't approaching she couldn't talk crap. So I know I'm doing good. I made a new routine up and says to girls she's my stalker (which she is) and that she makes up lies. Haha, no one can stop me. I know that I'm progressing at a fast rate. Anyway, leave comments and critique below. Peace!

you might want to rethink this in the future. not only is it kind of dickish move but you wasted kind of wasted your time by pursuing and closing someone for no reason. If nothing else she could have been a valuable companion (potential wing) in the field. Secondly, i'm sure she has friends. Female friends are never a bad thing unless they bring drama.

It was literally 3-5 minutes of time. And it aided me in that it kept me in the zone. You're right about the friends thing, but I didn'tlose any sleep over it just sharpening my skills in n-closing.