Hey guys

I have been watching the excellent RSD Julien youtube videos, one in particular where he is talking about strong eye contact and being physical right from the start.

How do you be physical with a girl whilst letting her know you are attracted but without being too touchy? I read on this website recentely that you touch their shoulder briefly every so often but not for long periods of time etc and touching them on the upper back, upper shoulder makes them go wild. I think it was a forum and girls were actually suggesting this themselves.

But how do you guys do physical contact and are these ways successful for you?

This is an area I haven't practiced much at all but is so important.

I read this article somewhere that stuck in my mind... It said that kino should start in a manner similar to the way you would touch your boss, progressing to the way in which you would touch your girlfriend

That analogy sounds right on, great stuff. So in other words, you are physically escalating from non-threatening but confident male with no problem in touching her (to contribute to setting the main base for attraction) to more sexually direct once she is showing attraction.

Obviously with self amusement etc and a non rigid frame hehe but that seems effective.

Don't prolong contact for too long so it becomes awkward.

Have a lot of push-pull with your kino.

Don't draw attention to the touching, at least not at first.

Gradually escalate if she is reciprocating.

The opportunities for kino are very contextual; for example, if walking with her through a bar, touching the small of her back might work, or when telling an anecdote you could act out part of the story that involves being physical with her. Main thing is keep it natural and escalate.

Good luck!

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Great advice folks, something I need to practice more and get into the habit of.

One thing I found that touching them on the hip is a big no no, they often try and shimmy to the side.

Yeah, I was talking with this girl at work and we were discussing the MAJOR differences between subtle changes in the location of your touch. For instance, putting a hand on someone's shoulder is no big. But, we were talking about how her boss at her other job touched the middle of her back when talking (side by side) and how it communicated something totally different than a shoulder touch. It's amazing what just a few inches of difference in one's touch can subtly communicate

To be honest, a fair few sources have said that the upper middle back makes them shimmer with excitement but one website stated that the upper shoulder did the same thing, plus I did this once when I was talking to this girl and she went all flustered haha

Haha she got all flustered? I normally go for her arm with my elbow, but I'll have to try this!!