I am new to the PUA. Hell I have been a nice guy for 30 years, but now I'm playing with a HB8. We've been hanging out together (3 times) since New Years, smoking fatty, drinking and just hanging at my place. I was hanging with her tonight and we were talking about people, I live in Massachusetts and we have an affectionate term for ourselves. Massholes!. So she said "You're not like your average Masshole". I take that as "your a nice guy." (BTW I am twice her age, but she says she thinks I'm cool) I'm already in the friend zone with her so I'm trying to dig myself out. My plan to get out of this is to go out bar hopping with her and start paying attention with other chicks in front of her. Is this a fools errand or do you think it might work? We could go to my regular and all my friends will give me validation and boost me up. It's a touchy bar and I get hugs from most of the woman there. (it's really a dive but I love it) She does have other issues and my friends are telling me to give it up and move on. But . . .

Man friend zoned huh? That is A little bit tough...

and to be honest...I never knew how to work the friend zone, but at the same time

if that girl is down to chill all the time, but shes not giving it up.




Keep it that way...so you have some reliable friends that are girls you can chill with

otherwise...I would have to say it MIGHT be A waste of time...but if your

going to be sarging anyways then do that.




The jealously plotline may or may not work, but I would say leave that alone

and just get another girl. Mostly because I myself have never figured out the

friendzone challenge and I don't really intend to....lol

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did you kiss her yet?

Thanks Prince. Its a big help. Just hanging with her is kinda cool and to be honest with all her other baggage makes keeping it in the friend zone may be safer. She does have lots of hot friends so having her as a good friend may be the best answer. No I still haven't kissed her yet. But hugs are starting to come my way now. Its tough with this one. Just trying to go with the flow for now.

Perhaps the best possible solution is to not let yourself placed in the friend zone in the first place.
It may be the fear of flat out rejection which many perceive as a negative result so they settle for the friend label in hope of somehow getting the girl in the end.

I'm sure it is definitely possible to get out of the friend zone and getting the girl and there probably have been many instances of it happen. It probably happens a lot but it sounds like more work and trouble.