Just a question to some of the more experienced members in here:

Do you guys consider it a failure if don't get sex on the first date?

Her level of interest is more important than sex. Personally, I always push for sex on the first date. But if it doesn't happen because of some inconveniences, I wouldn't sweat it as long as I ran a decent game and she wants to see me again.

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Hey dlightmen


Dude your NO failure man, if you can't close on the first night then

there could be like infinite reasons as to why it may not happen.

If you DO need A good closing routine, look up my routine here

on the forums, some people have reported success with it.



But dude honestly its not A fail, more and more I am finding out

that its not that much about the sex, but more the experience and

adventure that you have with each new woman you meet man!



If your genuinly having fun with that girl and she is with you as well,

then sex is just A natural thing that follows it. You don't even really

need any game to be honest man.




You got this.

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