I'm new here and I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this. I'm currently learning about the art of pickup so I'm not such an AFC. It's not going badly and I've picked up a few nice dates!

My main problem is this one girl in my life. I've know her for almost 3 years when I plucked up the courage to talk to her as a shy AFC. I had no idea what I was doing back then and I quickly became her best friend... She was the first girl that I've ever really liked. Throughout the 3 years we've just been doing friendly things despite her knowing that I'd fallen for her (I told her). Looking back I know how wrong and stupid I was.. Eventually after going gym and talking to other girls I became more confidant and a lot better looking.

We met up in the holidays and we went on a lot of outings, she knew I still liked her but we seemed to ignore that and continue just having a good time with each other in a friendly way...

My problem is that I'm so far in the friendzone it's unreal. I've always wanted more from her. She's seeing some guy at the moment which annoyed me and again she knew I was annoyed...

It seems like only the master of all PUA could help me out on this one. But I've always liked a serious challenge. Especially now I know all the mistakes I've made with this girl I feel inclined to get out of the friend zone with her.

So far after I've learnt a few PUA techniques I've let her know that I'm not interested in her (she asked) in that way. I've tried to stop being such a bitch around her. I've played a few negs which seem to have made her react in a way I've wanted.

To her I'm a super nice guy... In the past she's even said she wants to get me with her best friend because I'm so nice...

This is bull. I want to be boyfriend close to her by the end of this year. (2014)

So I'm at uni now and will only probably end up seeing her maybe 3 times till April.
I come home in April for 2/3 weeks where I assume I'll see her a few more times.
Then In July I'll be home for a lot longer.

I'd MASSIVELY appreciate it someone could help me in this monstrous challenge? Even give me a few tips.

Thanks a lot

JayMan

A lot of guys have this noble mission of "this time I'm going to do it right" after getting out of their AFC state.

The one thing that you must learn, not only in "game," but for general life knowledge, is that you have a small window for success. When that window passes, you are in the friend zone 98% of the time.

You saw the Chris Rock bit right? (paraphrasing) "Men don't got PLATONIC friends...we just got girls that we haven't fucked YET."

How many times have you told a girl you aren't interested in sex because she's already in your friend zone? Never.

What I'm saying is, don't focus on how to fix something that is more or less futile. Yes, she might be great and you may see this as a new you...but will she?

The only thing you can do is be more passive with her while simultaneously displaying higher value through your social life etc. Once she sees that you are fun, successful, different, unique etc., THEN you can think about attacking this situation. But until then, ur just another dude who wants her attention. You are not the only one, I assume.

I know this wasn't what you wanted to hear, but when you come to grips with the fact that women categorize fairly quickly, it makes life much easier. The friend zone for a month is bad enough, but friend zoned for 3 years plus supreme "nice guy" status and "you should date my friends" and that is a huge deficit to overcome with no clear rewards.

Most won't take this advice, but MOVE THE F'%'& on. Nothing is weaker looking than a dude just holding on to lost hope because of futile pride. Blaze your own trail for once and dont let this woman dictate your existence.

Lastly, she's an attention loving whore. If she knows you are into her yet she still hangs out with you, you've effectively become an emotional tampon. She tells you all of her problems and concerns and insecurities KNOWING you are into her, yet she continues to essentially lead you on. That's pretty shitty behavior if you ask me. I would never want to be with someone like this.

Whether you believe it or not, there are women with far more value than this girl.

You have one-itis. If you really want to know if you like her, maybe you should look up the cure for one-itis. And if she is that "special someone" then i would advise using more negs, show off in front of her (not noticeably) like take her out to do things that you are good at, and if you're not good at anything, get good at something (preferably something that girls find attractive, not computer programming) and that will for sure boost your confidence around her and there is no way that confidence can hurt your relationship unless you just turn into a dick.

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Lol its very easy. Go no contact. Even if she messages you blow her off(im sure youre pussy to do this, but posting anyway for the real men out there that need this advice). If shes like why arent you talking to me ? " Im busy with gym, gf ,etc". She'll be like gf? and say yes shes a sweetheart. Done enough about it , dont talk to her more and go ghost. Gym gym improve go out and get an actual girlfriend(you need the experience). Then when summer rolls and youre back in town, hit her up and say, "Hey whatsup havent seen you in a while. Lets catch up over drinks. 9pm tomorrow bla bla". She will say yes because at this point she misses you soooo much(or your afc attention) and will probably agree. Then it is time to show her the new you, good body, fun and experienced in taking girls out. ONLY way to beat the friendzone mate.

Thanks for the advise guys.

I think I've decided I shall move on from her, limit contact since I doubt I'll be seeing her often anyway. Continue to better myself and find another girl (I have a 9 on the go). I'll probably mention her randomly at the end of this month.

After all that self improvement I'll come back in the summer and see what happens.