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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:00 am 
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So I'm a straight newb, been going at this for two weeks but just started actually going out again last week (went out four times). Got into the whole RSD thing bleah bleah. This is what's up...

So every time I go out, I just start approaching not taking myself too seriously. Really been working on inner-game and outcome independence. Problem is, I get girls to laugh, I pull numbers, we have fun, and before I know it tonight my buddy and I are like fucking rockstars and get all the attention (pissing off massive alpha dudes who couldn't hang, haha). I got some attraction from a couple of girls that I am pretty sure were dtf if only I had the whole "pull" thing down.

QUESTION: any advice on how to use this energy for seduction? Like I said I'm pretty new, I'm working on my kino and am slowly becoming more comfortable with it and I am confident in the future I'll get better at this. Just want some advice on how not to be just a funny jackass and actually pull that shit.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:12 am 
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The keyword here is CALIBRATION. Your energy level should be slightly above the one of the set, otherwise they will be wondering what pills you are on. The group's energy level is the average energy level of the group members. When you isolate the target, your energy level should be calibrated to HER energy level, otherwise you lose her on the spot. Next, you should use humour just to break the ice, then move to some neutral stuff, else you will be just "that funny guy". You want to be that "funny, seductive, smart... guy" not just to get them laughing...


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:28 pm 
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Cool bro thx. Will try this tonight.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:18 pm 
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I used to be that type of guy, entering the place and owning it but not getting laid.
You have to take yourself a little more seriously, because if you don't, other people won't either.
Try to demonstrate dominance and sexual attraction, be funny in a sexual way and try to close on the same day.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:28 am 
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After you've seduced the whole room. Go after one girl, or girls, but few of them. Direct your attention to just one person, not the whole room. Try to be flirty and start using kino on them. You've asserted your dominance, now start using it to your advantage.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:52 am 
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They think you're their cute little brother who makes them laugh. Other than that mission failed. You also sound so up yourself that it's not surprising you're getting nowhere. Calm down and stop being the village idiot the whole time dude.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:22 am 
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Nice topic, glad to see im not the only one!

Im a chatty guy, very social, never had problem with making friends but had serious problems with pulling the trigger.

Thats how I get loads of chicks on my FB and on my cell but cant get laid with none.

Unfortunatley dont have much advice on this, but would keep track of this post to see what the other users can throw at us.

Keep it good!


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:44 am 
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60yoc goes over this in his book, i'll try to summarize to the best of my ability.

"Seductive and serious will always beat social" However, being social will put you into more situations where you can be seductive. You can be seductive by using intense eye contact, pausing, touching, etc (you should look this up for yourself). But you should be social with anyone you are not trying to get with to showcase your fun and outgoing personality. Like I said above though, you shouldn't maintain this jubilant personality with her, you need to be SEDUCTIVE.

My roommate freshman year is to this day the most outgoing guy I know, he introduced me to tons of people in general. However, he only brought a girl back once the entire year and they only made out. You can't escalate if you're constantly telling jokes. You're not trying to entertain a crowd, you're trying to entertain your penis...into her vagina.

Edit: I strongly recommend his book. I'm a very personable guy but I always had trouble escalating. His book is focused on natural game, none of the bullshit pua lingo, no tricks/games. Very natural.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:03 am 
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Man, you don't need to change anything, believe me. Only improve something of your closes and get around the community. What you really need is ENDGAME. Your personality is already attractive you only need to know how to efficiently show that to women around you! :D :lol: :lol: :lol:


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