I went to a restaurant in my neighborhood this evening. It was sort of self-help service. When I picked food materials, a girl was picking food next me. I asked her, "Do you often eat here?" She was a little taken aback, but she replied, "No, I just came here several times." After that, I didn't know what to say, I just continued picking food materials.

When I sat at a table, another two girls shared the same table. We were eating. I asked the 2 girls, "Is it hot/spicy(I meant the food they ate)?" "No, I don't think it is hot/spicy." After that, I didn't know what to say, I continued eating. Later the 2 girls talked about express delivery, and I interrupted and talked about express delivery a few seconds.

I can open girls in a restaurant, but the problem is that I can't hook them. I don't know what to say after 1 or 2 or 3 lines. Please advise.

Here's a sample of a convo where I approached a target in a "buffet situation" similar to yours...

Me: have you tried the eggs Benedict? they are to die for... [enthusiastic, high energy delivery]
Her: really? [no smile, wondering perhaps why am I telling her that]
Me: yeap... If I had to chose between these eggs Benedict and sex, I would have to think for a while... [delivered with playful looks]
Her: you must not be that much into sex [wide smile, already caught in the conversation]
Me: sex is sooooo overrated... everybody knows that women are more into it than men, anyway... [delivered in a half serious way]
Me: I read that inside a Snapple cap... [grinning]
Her: you're so funny [laughing hard]
Me: sex is not something to be taken lightly, young lady [while escorting her to the table]

she was alone at the hotel, same as I, we ended up having breakfast together, she was leaving that morning, so it didn't lead anywhere, point is you can open situationally (in this case based on a particular food available at the buffet) and then move the convo in any direction... you have to be creative and blend some humour in the convo...

Your approaches were too generic... "Do you come here often" is probably the most overused pick-up line, probably my grandpa used it to pick up grandma when they started dating right after the 2nd World War... True fact: there is a song, novel and play named after this pick-up line... You shouldn't use it ever again...

Situational openers work only if you segue with something unrelated, otherwise you end up "milking the opener" and the targets sense that you are running out of material...

@RedLight, you mentioned sex so blatantly and so early, a girl would think that you were a seducer or player or a guy hungry for sex, she would be cautious about you after that, unless she was also hungry for sex.

I prefer to be a gentleman, demonstrate proper amount of high values, be friendly, don't be rude, but don't try to please her, don't become interested in her, after she becomes interested in you, encourage her to talk more about herself, and let her sweep you off your feet, so you can naturally become liking her, etc.

Valid points, it's up to every PUA to define his style and target audience... My point was how to transition from a situational opener (e.g. two people getting food at a buffet) to an unrelated conversation that can be carried out until you get to deliver all that information about yourself. If you fail to catch her attention she will not give you that time...

True, I need to hook her, but I don't know how to do it. I think that I should always have some interesting non-sexual canned materials/openers/routines, after I open a girl with a situational opener, I should quickly transition to my interesting non-sexual canned materials/openers/routines, in this way, I think that I can probably hook her.

They don't call it a "routine stack" for nothing... it's a bunch of material that will help you get through the attraction phase... once into comfort, you can let go of the canned stuff and discuss whatever comes to mind... for this particular restaurant situation, your canned material could be about a fun psychological analysis of the target based on what she's got on her plate... kinda like a cold read that The Mentalist would do (I hope you watch this show, it's filled with good stuff that you can use in pick-up). This could fill enough time to get her interested in you enough to get into comfort...

Yes man you need something more solid than that if you don't want to be labelled as AFC right away.

You seem to think that Redlight approach was too direct, but at least he's got a chance to catch her attention. By using your line, your chance does not exist !

Two days ago I was on a plane, just waken up at 6:00am by a girl who came to sit next to me 10 minutes before the landing. Here is how it went :

Me : What's going on ?
Her : I only have 20 minutes to catch my next flight, so I need to be as close as I can to the exit of the plane
Me : Oh ok I though you just joined us in the middle of the flight (said seriously)
She stares at me intrigued, I smiled, she laughed
Me : So Where are you going ?
Her : Hungary
Me : Oh cool, you every year I travel to a new city for new year's eve, I don't know which to choose between Budapest and Prague. Which one would you... (she interupts me quite excited)
Her : GO TO BUDAPEST !!!
Me : Really ? In which one can I find the most beautiful girls ? (Said playfully)
Then she laughed and we chatted for five more minutes before she ran out of the plane to get her freakin' next flight. Turns out we don't even live in the same country so it was a dead end (and I'm pretty sure my breath smelled like a dead rat right after 5 hours of sleep).

I know it's not a golden opener, but in the first 20 secondes, she knew I am adventurous (go to a new city every year for NYE), that I am funny (opened up with a joke she liked) and that I am cool talking about seduction to a stranger. I came out as a fun guy to talk to. You came out as as boring as every AFC that she meets everyday.

Point is, it's not because you talk about sex/seduction right away that you are not a gentleman. At no point was I rude or disrespectful. You just need to change your beliefs about what girls expect when they are being aproached.

Here is my answer if I meet the same situation next time:

Me: Do you often come here?
Her: No, I just have come here several times.
Me: Oh, there is something on your hair(Negging her)
Her: (Feeling a little embarrassed, feeling her hair with her hand)
Me: Now its gone. Do you like sweet food or salty food?
Her: I like sweet food.
Me: It indicates you need love because liking sweet food means lack of love.(Cold reading)
Her: How about you?
Me: I like salty food.
Her: What does it mean?
Me: A person who doesn't need love. Needless to say, we're on different pages, we will never get along.(Breaking rapport, push her away)
her: Do you think so?

So you are basically expecting her to respond with these exact words?

Don't over-do the thinking, just go in and get to know her.

You can always keep a conversation going, it's easy as hell. Don't ask too many questions, the conversation will end up being boring and more like an interview. Try statements. And about mentioning sex early in the conversation...there's nothing wrong about it. I met this girl 3 days ago at a bar and I opened the sex topic 2 minutes as we started talking.

I think that it is not too bad to mention sex early in the conversation at a bar/club, but at other places during the daytime, I don't think that it is very good.

If you meet a girl in a restaurant who is getting food materials next to you, how will you open her? Could you write a script to give an example?

With that being said, how was sex mentioned at the bar?

It does seem a bit risky, considering that if she replies that she prefers salty food, either you say ''oh cool, me too !'' and you will sound like you are trying to build rapport during the opener --> not good, or you say ''oh I prefer sweet food cause I need love'', and you come off as needy.

Wouldn't it be better on the long run not to try to predict what she would reply, and improvise instead, to train yourself to react based on the situation and your environment, even if it means to screw up the first few times ?

Otherwise you will always need to have the script prepared beforehand for every situation and every reply she might give you.

This something on your hair neg sucks .???really I saw a guy try that and these girls loughed the shit out of him ...


Boldly approach a girl any way you want
For example ...

Hi am Mark extend your hand and great her do and maintain eye contact
And smile ..Now tell her I was looking through the menu brochure and I was thinking about getting exactly what you got there .is it the..............?
She will be like no it's the ........or yes it is......
Does it taste great?
She.... yeah you should get it ...
Oh really ok I am getting it, it better taste good ,now grin or wink at her or don't grin or wink now you can go about eating your food and ignoring them
Maybe they will ask if you like the food
Now a gentle man doesn't talk while eating so you make them wait whilst you take a bite and enjoy it
Ok so Now you broke rapport huh?you make them wait so you can ask what's your names?
If they haven't told you that already
Ok so you talk you want her number?
You be like hey let's have a chit chat when you are done !
Keep eating your food
Observe them covertly
And be like just lemme know when you are done
Observe their body language ,maybe you are not their type
You can't pick just any girl up

Ok assuming they are done eating So you are like hey I don't wanna be bothering you but thanks it really tasted good .do you guys stay any where around here?
Then blah blah blah
Oh I see its been nice meeting you I'd like to meet you babes again.let's see if we can grab coffee .

I do it this way till they be like oooohnnooooooo and I am like well it's all good I won't beg for your number?you see I used ? This makes it not come out like iwont beg for your number!!!!!!!

Smiling keepingbanfriendly charismatic frame Will pull you through.,.+need clothes

Christ can women not eat in peace without some creep hitting on them and talking about sex in the very first sentence. You guys are like dogs in heat, hanging around food halls, searching in malls for hours on end for some girl to even notice you. The smell of desperation stinks from you lot and it 'ain't pleasant. Have a bit of dignity ffs.

This is a decent approach from tipicall, but the intro handshake may be to early if she's eating. Asking questions is always key, so to break ice and seeming not to intrude, while asking how she feels about something- as long as it leads to sex. The psychology: She's gonna take measures to go out of her way to please you with providing the best so she can look good, which means she's on the spot. This obligates her to you now. She's not gonna recommend garbage- so she thinks (in her state of mind, because she's never wrong), even if it does taste like shat to you. The sacrifice men must make for the putty tat! Scripted is for texting because in person you are adapting to the person. Act like you're talking to a familiar female friend by kidding around, but be flirty, touchy feely.

Its all about staging, they can't see whats coming. Set the stage where you' create the show as director and actor/player. They're the audience or participant. They will follow all of your commands as long as you have their attention.They must see what you want them to see like a magician. You must blitzkrieg them because speed kills.

Tapout:You make that look good eating that, ummm, is it really that tasty, I think u got some sauce here (pointing on my face/cheek to apply push pull neg), you not that hungry are you, don't they feed you at home, what u get sweetie? (while gazing her up and down and lick my lips when saying ummm)(relating to her body being delicious, applying sexual undertones-ummm).

Putty tat: its pretty good its the ____ (she giggles, blushes or is embarrassed which you've put her in a schoolgirl crush mode and you control her emotions and feelings where you desire for them to go.) (in the case of her becoming a bitch, you retract and say "that stuff probably makes you fat, but I like my women curvaceous."

Tapout: ok, if its not as good then you're paying, but you wouldn't lie to me right? (walking over to her touching her shoulder) (again push/pull/obligating)

Putty tat: no I wouldn't do that

Tapout; but you can cook right, because I cant be down with you if you cant cook, you don't burn it up do you? (making a smirk face) (push/pull)

Putty tat: of course not, I love to cook (obligating herself to you)

Tapout:Whats your favorite dish that would win my heart with and turn me on? (making her close me and win me over so she can please me) (allow her to close you and make her needy) (if shes non compliant about answering, then neg "you probably cant cook because you don't even say what dishes are good, I knew it was to good to be true, see u around-asta LA vista baby"

Putty tat: I fix Italian and (such and such)

Tapout: ummm...you're wetting my appetite, I have to try that, my name is Tapout, since you like this spot lets meet up here again because you seem cool (nonchalant, save compliments for later don't give away being Beta), whats your number so we can meet up...does it start with area code 777 (your area code guess) (ABC-Always Be Closing and assume the sale) (have cell already out and dial while speaking) (push away food recommendation because you don't accept anything from her so she won't get points until she does something you desire) (don't forget to get the name and play with her physically by touching shoulder, arm and get close)

You can chitchat longer to command digits if she's a tight one to pry open. It sometimes take a little more effort when you have to chip away more ice off their shoulder.


As for me being a seductionists or sexual groomer, I take charge of the situation and distract by being funny and playful, so they can relax and enjoy my company. Its not about routine but about grooming her for sex.

Grooming her for sex? Mate you are one sick fuck and just be grateful that no undercover cops are on here otherwise they'd track you down and arrest you you fucking evil cunt. Grooming her for sex? Get real mate or you will end up in jail. If any girl heard you say you are grooming her for sex you'd wish you were never born. What the hell do you think they'll see you as? Grooming her for sex? You are a fucking saddo retard and you'd better change your way of thinking otherwise you'll end up in serious trouble you dumb assed cunt. Grooming her for sex?

Your post should be deleted immediately as the next step in your sicko mind would be rape.