So I was in Timberland getting myself some shoes this afternoon. This shop keeping girl came to me and asked me if I needed help and gave her a big smile. Then I realised she is quite a stunner, probably a 8 and very much my type. When I walked up to pay for the shoes, It happened that she was the one at the cashier. She opened by asking me if I know the shoes I am buying are water proof. I thought that was an IOI, because it was totally obviously and meaningless question. It was lucky that the shop wasnt very busy. We chatted a little about shoes and I show my empathy about her having to work on a holiday. The conversation went on for a little while. I didnt make a move because her co-worker was watching and the cashier queue was building up. I didnt see any chance that I could in any way discreetly asking for her number.

Then I walked around in the shopping centre for like an hour and thought to myself that this was probably the only chance I have with her and I really liked her. I went back to the shop and pick up a pair of gloves and straight away to the check out desk where she was standing. The conversation went like this,

Me: Hi (with a big smile)! I have to come back and buy these gloves. Also, I think you are super sweet. Here is my name and telephone number (which I prepared on a piece of paper before hand). Why dont you give me a call and we can have coffee together sometimes?

(She very discretely took the paper and put it in her back pocket)

HB: Oh. Thank you very much. I really appreciate that. But I have a fiance.

Me: ...really..? (I was a bit freeze out. This is the first time I run day game like this. And there are too many people around, I couldnt really use a "Boyfriend destroyer". Plus I never thought it works anyway. )

(Then she filled out this little awkwardness)
HB: Hey but we could text. I want to improve my English. (I was in Italy. These Italian girls are super hot and sweet!)

Me: OK. That would be cool.

Then I paid for the gloves. We greeted each other before I left.

I dont think she will ever text me. She was simply just being sweet. It was a pretty difficult situation, but I thought I needed to give it a shot. How do you guys think I have done? Perhaps I could have done it a little different?

Thanks a lot in advance for the advice.

So I'm just getting into this game, at least this style of the game and many times I have thought about ways in which to ask cashiers for their number or to hang out. I would have probably used the initial conversation in which you talked about shoes to seek an opening for her and I to meet up outside of the store. Although that is much harder said than done sometimes. Otherwise, I think you played it perfectly. And the greatest thing, what I try to live by when it doesn't go the way I imagined.. Is that I never have to wonder what would've happened.

Giving your number on a piece of paper is weak to some PUAs, however, in some situations its ok. I think honestly where you messed up is when she asked you in the beginning if you needed help. You should have jumped all over her bones right then. Do not wait. It makes you look like a pussy. Baring that, i guess, you could have waited till the next day, returned the shoes to the store and hoped she was there to help you. again, tho, this problem could have been avoided if you would have hit on her when she asked you for help.

In this situation when she was asking if she could help. How would you open her up. Would you neg, or be the nice customer and tell her how nice she is for helping you out? I've been in similar situations and have always taken the nice guy approach to no avail. But don't see how a neg would apply other than complaining about working retail on weekends or those type of put downs. I have one neg that sometimes works, "glad to see your climbing the corporate ladder at X-store" when she is just a cashier/clerk working through college. Any others?

Just get into a normal convo with them.

I wouldn't classify her line as an "opener" - she is trying to move product. Hence the classic truth about hired guns - they are paid to be nice to you.

If you're talking to a 'hired gun' and you feel like "it's on" and want to go for the # be discreet and classy about it. He did a good job under the circumstances & considering that he is new to all of this.

Correct me if I am wrong here. I thought neg is all about bringing down a girl's bitch shield. In a shop situation like this, you would already have the same if not high value than her, so I would never do a neg in this situation. I would normally just be a nice guy and make sure she has a bit of fun during her boring day job.

In my opinion, giving her your number means you are showing neediness. That is poison! You don't need her. You make her need you. What you could have done on purpose was use her time up by making her help you thus putting her in compliance. For example having her take your shoe off and fitting you. This requires her to get on her knees or stoop down where you are over her. This is called dominance. At the same that time you are flirting with her, having fun and by being in control you determine when the fun ends. It really does not matter about waiting customers. This is your reality and if just so happens to inconvenience a few people then too bad.

My intuition tells me that the she fib about her fiancé. By her saying that, she disarmed you and immediately placed you in the friend zone and maybe a text buddy. The good news that if she really wants to be your text buddy, you have an opportunity, to communicate with her and get yourself out of the friend zone, but you are going to have to turn the tables on her so that she is pursing you and you are the prize as opposed her being the prize to win over.

Hope that helps.

Your making all the sense in the world. looks like I've been doing it all right all along. just need to pull the trigger and get the phone number