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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:05 am 
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So I was out tonight in quite a big city. It was amazing, my sarging experience is limited to much smaller venues, so it was definitely helping being in a big club with MUCH more talent around me. I opened a few sets to start off the night and even had some hotties opening me and everything was hunky dory.

Then it hit me like a car crash. I was on the dancefloor with a HB7, I didn't run any verbal game on her, but I was kiss closing. Then she said the dreaded words 'how old are you?'... all the fucking time I get this, it didn't take long for her to cut her losses and scram. I then get opened by a HB8, but she tells me I look 14... I go to the dancefloor again and start working on another HB8 who thinks I'm 16. Pissed off, about an hour later, I go to queue in the toilets and some guy randomly turns round and tells me I don't look a day older than 16 and that I can't have been ID'd properly. When you've got random blokes telling you that, there's no other motive, they're not trying to impress their friends or anything as they're alone, that's when you know that there's a problem ;]

This is a huge burden, especially when in clubs. I have a few witty responses, but when you've got the music blazing and the whole SPAM, it's not really possible to smooth things over as you'll end up repeating yourself 10x until she gives up. I know that my mentality needs to be 'not hide my age or think of it as a negative thing', but it's not my age that's the problem, it's the age that I look. I'm 18, but I'd say I could easily pass as 15-16.

I'm doubtful that there's any quick fix for this one unless I hope that I'll start to look my age in 3 or 4 years time, so I'm throwing this one out there to see if anyone has the skills or experience to fix it ;]


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So I was out tonight in quite a big city. It was amazing, my sarging experience is limited to much smaller venues, so it was definitely helping being in a big club with MUCH more talent around me. I opened a few sets to start off the night and even had some hotties opening me and everything was hunky dory.

Then it hit me like a car crash. I was on the dancefloor with a HB7, I didn't run any verbal game on her, but I was kiss closing. Then she said the dreaded words 'how old are you?'... all the fucking time I get this, it didn't take long for her to cut her losses and scram. I then get opened by a HB8, but she tells me I look 14... I go to the dancefloor again and start working on another HB8 who thinks I'm 16. Pissed off, about an hour later, I go to queue in the toilets and some guy randomly turns round and tells me I don't look a day older than 16 and that I can't have been ID'd properly. When you've got random blokes telling you that, there's no other motive, they're not trying to impress their friends or anything as they're alone, that's when you know that there's a problem ;]

This is a huge burden, especially when in clubs. I have a few witty responses, but when you've got the music blazing and the whole SPAM, it's not really possible to smooth things over as you'll end up repeating yourself 10x until she gives up. I know that my mentality needs to be 'not hide my age or think of it as a negative thing', but it's not my age that's the problem, it's the age that I look. I'm 18, but I'd say I could easily pass as 15-16.

I'm doubtful that there's any quick fix for this one unless I hope that I'll start to look my age in 3 or 4 years time, so I'm throwing this one out there to see if anyone has the skills or experience to fix it ;]

Wow that was painful to read. When i used to go out, i had that going for me, girls thought i was older than i actually am thats why theyd open me, when i said that i was 19 at the time, theyd be like "OMG Hes only 19, oy jessie, hes only 19, omg what are you serious?".

Alrite well heres your solution

I'm 18, but I'd say I could easily pass as 15-16.
Look at the way you dress, look at older mens fashion and get a pivot to help you dress more mature. I don't really mean a suit, just make sure you get your haircut by a male hair dresser, and get something interesting but mature going. Also your voice tone, make sure you don't sound like a kid.

how old are you?
How old do you think i am?
I don't know you look 16! well than you should take me home and tuck me in bed.

How old are you?
Too old for you sweetie!

How old are you?
Old enough to pick you up from school! what time do you finish?

How old are you?
im 12 but don't tell anyone!

How old are you?
Im 60, just going into retirement! wheres your drink? i want to put my false teeth in there for abit.

Use whatever, funny, cocky, both, but when she asks you a second time, don't hide it, just tell her! if she goes on to neg you and says you look like a kid! well than use a cocky funny thing. If you can't hear her, than isolate her, and go somewhere where you can hear her. If you can't isolate yet, pretend you can't hear her, say "How old is who? how old jew? who told how old? what i can't hear you! alright never mind lets go here for a bit, i can't hear you *prepare to isolate*.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:42 am 
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I can't agree with Impact enough here. I am heavily pierced and tattooed ... i get stupid and silly questions all the time, but it's about learning to use those questions to your own advantage.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:22 am 
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I'm 18, but I'd say I could easily pass as 15-16.
Look at the way you dress, look at older mens fashion and get a pivot to help you dress more mature. I don't really mean a suit, just make sure you get your haircut by a male hair dresser, and get something interesting but mature going. Also your voice tone, make sure you don't sound like a kid.
Yeah, not to sound like a dick or anything but money isn't a problem for me as it is for my mates. This means I'm normally the best dressed guy in the place, but I've tried experimenting by looking like everyone else to see if it made a difference and it didn't. I think it normally hits them that 'wow he looks young' as soon as they see my face. I also get my hair done by a male stylist so that's pretty airtight.

Thanks for those one liners though, I can definitely see some of them working. But I still think most girls have made up their mind before hand, and it's a big cliff to climb when they have.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:02 pm 
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alrite dude im also 19 and i enjoy going for slightly older girls, at this moment im hopeing to pick up a 28yr old, she's damn fine.
i dnt know if you did but when they ask ur age and then react when u say 19, make sure not to start validating urself to them *remember that ur the prize.
i picked up a line, i think its from here so not my credit but has worked,
"i'm 19"
"thats so young"
"what are you on about ur old enough to be my grandma"
laugh playful shove! it has worked most times i try it, then leave it to them to start talking.

I wouldnt worry about it, jus dnt dwell on it perhaps inner game could be the way forward to raise confidence as good posture & confidence will change the age people see of you.
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Hey, I'm twenty, and I get the same thing.
Most people think my 17 year old brother is the older one.
And my 15 year old brother is my height.

But honestly... it normally isn't a problem.

If you play your game straight through, flawlessly...
it shouldn't kill your interactions.

A confident, fun, humorous man is still exactly that, no matter what age.

I say that you're letting it get to you too much.
It's probably a complex you've had for awhile, and just need to let it go.
You could even consider these "age questions" tests.
Use the cocky funny lines, and just let them roll off of you.
You have to be unfazed, that's key.
You have to not care.

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I have the same problem, girls always think im realy young, so everytime they ask me how old I am I just answer with OLD ENOUGH than pull a nice cocky grin. Have u considered working out?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:25 pm 
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I have the same problem, girls always think im realy young, so everytime they ask me how old I am I just answer with OLD ENOUGH than pull a nice cocky grin. Have u considered working out?
Ya 'Old Enough' seems like the obvious answer - but hasn't been too effective in most cases (in my experience).

Yeah working out is on my list of things to do, hopefully I'll get round to it on Wednesday. I tried working out last year and did it for nearly a year but stopped when I noticed people who had only been going to the gym for 3 months were already much bigger than me. I'm definitely getting a personal trainer this time round so I won't be wasting my time and effort.


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society has taught us that the man in a relationship is "supposed to be" older. so girls have a block when they meet a younger guy, it just doesn't jive with thier sense of reality. i mean, how can she find herself attracted to a younger man? she's supposed to find a man a couple years older, secure financially, with a home ready to put up a white picket fence, right? barf. i say use the fact that it doesn't jive with her preconceived life plan and capitalize! you need to think of all the things youth has on it's side and work them into your routine. youth = vitality, youth= fun, =vigerous energy, =you won't die before her (men statistically have shorter lifespans than women), =more adventurous. it also usually means they've been with fewer women and now she can "try to mold you into the perfect man". blah, but attractive to them, and a great interest point when you don't give them exactly what they want. bam, interest. and when you come off as secure in this they'll start to wonder why and need to figure it out. just like baldness, it's not something you have control over, but you can make it a problem, or embrace it and make it your ally.


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