Greetings!

First off thanks in advance for taking interest in helping me. I've been reading alot about PUA but havn't found anything around the lines of picking up girls that you have previously been in a relationship with. This girl that I was in a seriouse relationship with is moving away in a few weeks, we have made plans to hang out a few times before she leaves. I'm not looking to get back with here relationship wise, honestly I'm just looking to hook up with her before she moves away. What are some steps and theorys I can utilize to ensure this sucess?

to save us some time: whats so special about this girl? what kind of relationship did you guys have before? any physical contact? sexual contact?

If you already had sex with this girl you should at least be able to get her to a comfort place, build a lil trust once again thru kissing, kino, and stories/memories. Dont forget to use the time constraint! Then get her to the seduction location which is your place or bedroom. then do a lil more kino escalation (remember two steps forward, one step back) making out, and most of the time you will come across LMR right before it gets heavy, just use one of the LMR kills and you should be in there.

Once the door is open all you gotta do is keep using the time constraint (but dont overuse it), kino when you see her (hugs and kisses), stories that include patterns, anchoring, feelings and memories (but dont seem like a depressant, you gotta make it seem like you want her but you dont NEED her, you'll be fine, but dont come across as an asshole about it.) Make sure you develop/keep her trust by telling her you will always be in touch "even if she moves to the other side of the world"..seems kinda AFc-ish but you gotta gain her trust again, afterall she is your EX-gf.

hope it helps.

Hrm, whast so special about her? We both met as shy akward 17 year olds during an SAT test, seems like the instant we met eyes was the instant we fell in love. We left the SAT test without exchanging numbers but ran into eachother again by chance a week later, from there on out we dated for two years. What type of relationship did we have? We both isolated ourselves from our friends and just focused on us being togather. We were very seriouse and always talked about marrage and children. Physical contact/sexual contact? Heck yes, we had sex hundreds of times. Although she never seemed to be able to feed my sex drive.

Thanks for the tips, I'm going to study what you said word for word. You mentoined that i shouldn't come off as a depressant. As of now I know I don't need her, life without her has been great. But at the end of our relationship I did what most chumps would do, which was being the typical emotional X boyfriend that wants his girl back. How can I show her that I've moved on without causing any spite? Should I have a friend mock call me during the date and pretend its a girl, ect.?

I'm probably over-analysing this but should I wear an outfit that she is familiar with or an brand new outfit?

I would wear a different type of outfit if I were you. Done properly with clothes that accentuate features and FIT well, a new outfit can change her past outlook on you. She'll see you as more sophisticated, more relaxed, or at the very least better than the last time you two were together. It doesnt have to be a suit, it could just be a nice tshirt and jeans, but ask women friends for help with that.

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Why did you guys break up?

as far as an outfit goes it doesnt matter what you wear, just be comfortable..Speaking on clothing, you also want to get a $2 necklace or bracelet from walmart and make up a really meaningful story behind it. before she leaves do the "you're not a theif, are you?" routine on her and put the item on her. "tell her not to take it off until you ask for it back. she can keep it for safe keepings." then when she comes back to visit you, see if she has it on,if she does, she's definately not over you and you got a shot. If she took it off and stashed it somewhere..well you never know...

HELL no on the mock call.

Any 'outer'' action you change will cause spite. 'Outer'' meaning the way you act, talk, dress, treat her, touch her, kiss her.. the way you interact with her should be comfortable and build trust. the mock call would certainly break that trust.

All of your 'inner' focuses/actions/thoughts should be the same as they are from day to day without her. By you not changing your mindset, your 'frame of mind' will be powerful enough to show her you dont 'need' her.

for example, most guys would put on some cocky personality to show her he's not the AFC he once was, but by changing the WAY he talks, dresses and acts he's actually pushing her further away, which is opposite of what he wants. But you on the other hand will not change the 'outer' actions, only the 'inner' focuses, meaning NOT how cocky you talk, but WHAT you talk about, WHAT you say is just as important as HOW you say it.

You dont have to outright tell her you're better without her, but by use of DHV, stories, and events that has happened in your life since the break up, you will send a much deeper message.

Example Conversation/DHV Story:
"...Yeah, you and i sure did have some great times together..remember that time in the park when the cops came..and (she continues the story) ha ha ha! YOU WERE SCARED...I miss those days...anywho! A couple months ago , this is a true story by the way, my friends so-and-so set me up on a blind date with this girl they met off the internet...No, It was cool, they said she looked like janet jackson BEFORE the implants...ha ha ha..so the night we were supposed to go out, you know, I had my gear on and all..I was brushing/combing my hair when there was a knock at the door, so I opened it"

then stop!
at this point she will beg you to go on...

"...well I opened it and I swear to god "Mr.Ed" was staring me in the face!..I said [in Mr.Ed voice] "Naaa, Im not going out wit you (bitch)!"..then I slammed the door in her face...
not really. I didnt slam the door in her face, we still went out and had a goodtime. But I didnt call her afterwards.. (why not?) Because ...I.. dont know what horses eat!
Needless to say, after that I only went out with the girls I met face to face first."

End of story

in that story your telling her you are still dating around, you are still approaching women and you CAN have a good time even with a person you dont want to be with, because you ARE a great guy. You just gotta believe it

Thanks for the great responses!

I'm not really sure why we broke up, she did it over the phone and just said it wasn't working out. She use to party when we first started dating but when we got seriouse most social events stopped. Now that she is single she has re-united herself with old party friends and seems to be consumed with the nite life at the moment. That conflicts with me because I don't drink ect. I think she just wants to be a normal 19 year old with friends and high confidence.

What do you think about throwing in some negs to my X gf?

Thanks for the great responses!

I'm not really sure why we broke up, she did it over the phone and just said it wasn't working out. She use to party when we first started dating but when we got seriouse most social events stopped. Now that she is single she has re-united herself with old party friends and seems to be consumed with the nite life at the moment. That conflicts with me because I don't drink ect. I think she just wants to be a normal 19 year old with friends and high confidence.

What do you think about throwing in some negs to my X gf?

yea, neg her in a playful/humorous way, that will build more comfort and kinda break the tension. dont try to be funny, like mystery says "funny doesnt get you laid." for more on being playful watch the mystery WTF video in the Video Gallery Thread on this forum, heres the link:

http://pick-up-artist-forum.com/mystery ... vt302.html

notice how mystery is playful with the girl. it seems like they're always smiling and laughing having a good time, just making time seem to pass without them noticing it. thats how you want it to be, but dont force it because it will seem really unnatural and weird.

one thing that shocks me tho is that you say you guys had a great relationship, great sex life, and you guys were together for 2yrs, then she CALLS you and breaks up with you and never gave you a reason why? Now shes leaving and she wants to spend some time with you? Thats definately a red flag in my book. Keep your eyes peeled for any unusual behaviors, like if shes standoff-ish, keeping her space from you. you might have to use a "boyfriend buster" with her.

Alright. Thats for all your infomation, I'm going to try to have a planned approach and planned conversations for the night. I havn't learned any boyfriend killers, what would be a good one? I'm going to do a follow up to let you know how it went.

you are looking at this situation all wrong. you already nailed her, so what is the point?

when she is getting ready to leave, pull the lets-hook-up-one-last-time-for-old-times-sake routine.

don't be getting all mushy and sentimental, my friend. go in there, don't go out for a dinner, go to the beach or lake, whatever, a little wine and take care of business.

sounds to me like this should be a dead issue. you need to stick and move and find fresh fruit.

hope this helps.