Hey, I started PU a while ago and there's a few basic questions bugging my mind tonight.

#1 I found that (and this is maybe due to my inexperience) girls are more likely to give me their numbers, see me again if I don't make it seem like a "date" (this goes for my long term projects girls I open at my workplace). Am I just too green to get the basic attraction going? Although I see IOI's and have light kino... it's almost like 90% rejection if I don't ask them to do something work related or stuff. Going for a coffee, "Hell no" going over the numbers alone together for an entire evening, "no prob".

#2 I had this one weird rejection today, a girl at my workplace, I heavily flirted with her (on 3 occasions), pulled and pushed her good, she was throwing so many IOI's (she even got all hot, drank a lot of water and had to open her top for some air, last time)geez. Today she rejected me as I asked her for her #Number, with "Yeah you are nice and all, but you are just not my type" and practically ran away after that. o.0 srsly I don't get the BS going around in girl's heads.

#3 Can I ever stop playing "the game", do I screw up major if I'm on a date and just not in the "zone"?

Thanks for your time, my dare against AA for now: from tomorrow on I'll tell the first HB I see every day that she's pretty (share your thought's on what to say, for variety/got this from the web ofc)

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Of course girls are more likely to give you their number if there's no pressure involved (going over numbers for work). But be sure to make your intentions clear. Don't use the word "date". You can use the wording, "Hey I had a fun time chatting to you today. Let's grab a coffee this Friday at [...]" or, alternatively, "Hey let's grab a coffee this Friday at [...]. I'd like to get to know you better"

I doubt you're really doing anything wrong. These girls who reject you probably weren't attracted to you from the beginning.

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1. I never put too much pressure on meeting a girl for a follow up. I make it as low key as possible. "Let's just watch a movie at my place and grab some fast food." The date is implied as a result of the natural tension between males and females. Just don't kill this natural tension by bringing up work.

2. The timing matters my friend. Ask for her number when things are going well, not after things have cooled down a bit. You are more likely to get a positive response if she is in a positive emotional state. She probably was thinking you'd ask when she was messing with her top.

3. You can definitely stop gaming when you have gained comfort with a certain girl, but as a beginner you probably need to be more aware of it. But once you get your lay count up in the double digits you will have enough experience under your belt to use your intuition successfully, and not be consciously gaming at all.

You also might want to be careful about gaming at the workplace.

One of the key components of being able to get a one call close is getting the girl to go somewhere else with you.. Obviously nothing shady, but if you're at a bar and there's a pizza joint across the street, being assertive and asking the girl if she wants to go shows dominance and actually increases your chances of scoring much bigger with her.

You can even look at it like the "Foot in the door" sales approach tactic if you're retreating from seeming too overbearing.

Yep, I definitely need to improve on the tension part, it's getting to me way too much as I'm quiet an emotional guy. Practice will help for sure. Yes, I was thinking something similar. Actually I asked her the day after, of course the tension was gone by then. Gotta keep the flow ^^ Can't wait for that, it's fucking hard to keep playing all the time.

Yeah, I just thought starting at my workplace would be easier then in the wilds for starters. And there where a few girls I've been interested in for some time, so I wanted to take my chances.
Gotta get out of my comfort zone ^^

Thanks for your advice, much appreciated.

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If they're not meeting up to you with "date" in their mind, the one thing that it could possibly mean, in her mind, is a "hangout with a friend" - leading to the dreaded friend zone.

You have to make your intentions clear right off the bat, whether it be when you first meet them, or when you "hangout with a friend".

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The workplace is actually NOT a very good place to game, unless you are a customer and you are approaching a hired gun.

The reason for this is that there is no time constraint. You will see the girls you work with every day. She has no chance of losing you in her life anytime soon. Time constraints are one of my favorite tools.

Other places where there is little time constraint are gyms and classes. These are places where men tend to struggle a little more with pick up.

Go out into the wild, your chances are much better.