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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:51 pm 
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Good evening PUAs and welcome to my topic, a good week to all here. Thanks for taking some of your precious time to read these 5 lines below guys....



Straight to the point : Once i started flirting with this HB at work and she immediatelly gave me strong IOIs......(i told her "you might need a massage to relax......and she replied "i dont have a boyfriend to do it..."... i do have sticking points too, as feeling i wait to long to trust people....not following IOIs.... and this was all my life resulted in losing beautiful HBs....
I understand that i might be conveying that message that im not interested in her also by doing this.....



Anyway moving forward in time, Last times i saw her with this guy........ and today they were just kissing lightly. This breaks all attraction, and is now over for me, but in a way i was kinda expecting it.... (kinda gets me thinking that with women, that old proverd apllies alltimes.....the early bird catches the worm......makes any sense to you guys ? )




I know, alphas dont go straing showing DLV jelousy, or anything like angryness or neeedyness against what she does...like "...hey nice to see you finally found a boyfriend"


I know what you're all gonna say just take it as my fault, just ignore her, give her no more of your attention, move on with your life and other thousands girls all over the world. Right. I know its not her fault.




Now, question is: when she comes waving to my side, how does a High Value Alpha lets them Know he is aware of what is happening withoud showing needyness ? ( Point is i just dont want to be the friendly joker in nowaday relations while other guys fuck these HBs ...) I mean HBs do it all the time with us......so how should i convey that message ?




PS: It just keeps me wondering if i really want women...... or if i just want to be and love myself....



Opinions and help are very welcomed




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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:47 pm 
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Good evening PUAs and welcome to my topic, a good week to all here. Thanks for taking some of your precious time to read these 5 lines below guys....



Straight to the point : Once i started flirting with this HB at work and she immediatelly gave me strong IOIs......(i told her "you might need a massage to relax......and she replied "i dont have a boyfriend to do it..."... i do have sticking points too, as feeling i wait to long to trust people....not following IOIs.... and this was all my life resulted in losing beautiful HBs....
I understand that i might be conveying that message that im not interested in her also by doing this.....



Anyway moving forward in time, Last times i saw her with this guy........ and today they were just kissing lightly. This breaks all attraction, and is now over for me, but in a way i was kinda expecting it.... (kinda gets me thinking that with women, that old proverd apllies alltimes.....the early bird catches the worm......makes any sense to you guys ? )




I know, alphas dont go straing showing DLV jelousy, or anything like angryness or neeedyness against what she does...like "...hey nice to see you finally found a boyfriend"


I know what you're all gonna say just take it as my fault, just ignore her, give her no more of your attention, move on with your life and other thousands girls all over the world. Right. I know its not her fault.




Now, question is: when she comes waving to my side, how does a High Value Alpha lets them Know he is aware of what is happening withoud showing needyness ? ( Point is i just dont want to be the friendly joker in nowaday relations while other guys fuck these HBs ...) I mean HBs do it all the time with us......so how should i convey that message ?




PS: It just keeps me wondering if i really want women...... or if i just want to be and love myself....



Opinions and help are very welcomed




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I'm a little confused about what you're asking but sounds like the first question is something along the lines of "if it's possible, how do I salvage this situation?"

It is possible to salvage. And as far as how you should handle it, get her in isolation, or at least in a situation where the guy isn't there somewhere that isn't necessarily normal for you guys to hang out. Take her to a new club, a new bar, somewhere you two haven't hung out before, IMO this will help to break through her typical beliefs and opinions about you and give you a chance to almost "restart" with her. From that point on, just run good, solid game. Work some attraction gambits into your conversation and come up with some DHV stories (whether real stories from your life or canned material from other PUAs)- PM me if you need any- to work in as well, and watch for the IOIs... and follow them. If you get three IOIs, you should be going for a kiss, no questions asked. So watch for both the subconscious ones (touching hair, scratching wrist, etc.) and the conscious ones (asking questions about you, etc.) and once you see three, or if you REALLY don't like following them then wait for four if it makes you more comfortable, and go for the kiss. If you have trouble kiss closing, use Style's "Evolution Phase Shift (http://www.stylelife.com/challenge/2012 ... eShift.pdf), it really helps you to go onto autopilot and get out of the moment and hasn't failed me yet. And MOST IMPORTANTLY, don't bring up the boyfriend/boy toy/other guy at all. Let her do that. If you run solid game on her, odds are she won't mention him at all and it will be as if he doesn't exist.

Second question: "what is the alpha thing to do if you see a girl who you're meeting up with approaching you and she waves?"

Dude, don't overthink this. Just wave back and flash a big smile. But don't go to her, stay where you are and keep your body language however it is (whether that's facing her, facing someone else, facing somewhere else). Don't turn towards her and open up or walk towards her just because you see her. Wave back, smile-acknowledge her- but don't supplicate to her.

Cheers buddy and good luck.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:43 pm 
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Great feedback maverick, good ideas.




I saw her with a guy, she comes waving at me all happy and enjoys my company. Im not jealous, needy to even mention the other guy, but i admit lost the attraction in her. (i accept it was my fault, maybe i wait too long, ok.)


Putting it simple, question is: I loose atraction when i see a girl which i had interest with other guys, thats just it. How would a alpha trasmit this to her without being needy or jealous ?




That is my main question........has anyone come across with this before or is it just me?






Any ideas are welcomed !





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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:16 am 
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A quick add in order to help clear the issue...............






Lets imagine after this situation the HB would come up to me and say "Lets go out together tomorrow on a date...::"






I mean, i love girls, sex but i love myself first. One can say to loose my ego, but I am not willing to go out with a HB that is kissing the whole room ...........i am a bit more selective.




Now how would a Alpha deal with this ? Is it anyway possible to trasmit this to her, without conveying envy, jealousy or needyness ?




Just trying to be clear here guys!






Feedback is super aprecciated :)


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You don't show awareness because you don't care. Simple.


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If you truly have zero interest in the girl, why do you care how your behavior is to her in relation to whether or not you are acting alpha. The answer to your question of if you were to say something to a girl after she's hooked up is to treat her like your best friend's little sister who has never had a bf and finally gets one and sort of teasingly elbow her and state you are glad she's finally getting some action. Not sure why you would want to do this though. Who cares about her sex life.

One more note: The next time a girl says "I don't have a bf to give me a massage", TAKE ACTION. This is a red fucking alert that the girl is probably into you/DTF.

Say whatever; "I give a great massage but it'll cost you." Her: "Oh really now." You: "You cook me dinner & then u get a massage." Or whatever comes to mind.


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Hey man,

I'm a little confused by your dialect, but I work with you the best I can.

For starters.. Don't ignore her and put her off.. What did she do to you? Nothing. Thats awful - nerdy - wanna be pus advice. Just be cool man. Treat her the same; she may have some friends she can hook you up with. And even if she doesn't; she'll be turned on by the fact that you haven't changed after you saw her with some guy. It immediately separates you from the pack.

Mellow out man.. And just take the lesson that comes with it. Nice guys finish last.. you know the expression. And rejection is always better than regret.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:05 am 
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Great feedback guys........ Apologies for my english writing which might not always be 100% accurate.





i will stay the same then........ thats what i meant lesson is.....nice guys finish last......




So if she comes up to me and says lets go on a date......what would a alpha reply ? (since the my attraction disappeared but i dont wanne come as jealous....



What would you guys say ?


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Great feedback guys........ Apologies for my english writing which might not always be 100% accurate.





i will stay the same then........ thats what i meant lesson is.....nice guys finish last......




So if she comes up to me and says lets go on a date......what would a alpha reply ? (since the my attraction disappeared but i dont wanne come as jealous....



What would you guys say ?


:)
In my opinion the Alpha thing to do is to just let go of outcomes and speak your mind. If she asks you out and you don't want to go, just tell her so. Be polite, but honest and firm. Tell her you're no longer attracted to her and if she asks why, tell her. An alpha doesn't overthink things, he is honest, firm, and to the point. But as I said, be polite in saying you're no longer attracted to her and in explaining why. If you're honest, firm and polite, you're an alpha, if you're honest, firm and an asshole, you're just an asshole.

If you aren't interested in seeing her at all just say something along the lines of "No thanks, I don't really see you that way anymore" when she asks why, go with something like "Seeing you with that other guy killed the attraction for me. You're a nice girl, but I'm not interested in you that way." If you wouldn't mind seeing her (as it sounds like you're saying), you just aren't sexually interested in her, just lay down the law and tell her you're happy to see her again, but make it clear that you aren't interested in her that way anymore and that it isn't a date.

Like I said, don't overthink things, be genuine, polite and keep a strong frame and you'll be fine. If you aren't interested in the girl anymore anyways you shouldn't be putting this much time and effort into thinking over what you're going to say to her. As the US Navy used to say: "keep it simple, stupid".


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if i was in your shoes, i might actually bring up the guy in conversation (yes, i know you're not supposed to). or maybe just play it cool, wait for her to bring it up, but then talk about it casually and in depth, like you are genuinely interested in what he's like and how'd they meet, and how's the relationship going, but also act like you really approve and you think he's cool and you're happy for her. a real alpha male doesn't give a shit, and has so much other stuff going on in his life to preoccupy his mind. be non-reactive. don't change. really, if you've lost attraction, then you must not care, and if you don't care, then it must be easy as hell to talk to her. i know i have a really easy time talking to girls i don't care about.
if there's any way you can befriend that guy, do it. when she rebounds, she'll choose you because she knows that the guy knows you, and she'll want to get back at him. girls are messed up in the head like that.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:39 am 
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Thanks for the feed ideais guys, for now that will have to work






I remember she once told me......"i dont date people from work"...





this only add only to what we read about the lack of female congruency....... the things they say are not usually the same as the things they do.....

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