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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

A Sticking Point is:
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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
A Sticking Point is NOT:
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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If you have not already gone out and practiced enough to have a real Sticking Point from meeting an ABUNDANCE of women, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO POST HERE.



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:04 pm 
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Hey,

I have had this problem already a bazzilion times, but girls always say to me that they didn't even know I liked them that way in the first place. In that I mean: sexually interested.

Whenever I ask them out on a date I get the answer that they just want to stay friends and they didn't know I liked them. This happens in classes after 2/3 months or earlier. For example, This girls kinos the crap out of me, and we are really touchy, but when i asked her for a date I get the same answer every single time!

My question to you guys is: how do I avoid this happening? How can I let them know in a subtle way that I like them. I don't want to tell her up front "I like you" when I just have had 1 week of class that I like her.

This situation starts to annoy. The crap. Out. Of. Me.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:26 am 
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While you can be a little more direct with your intentions, I don't believe it changes anything in the end.

There is pleasantly surprised...and surprised. Just because you subtly let them know you are into them, doesn't mean that they will be in to you.

The problem it seems, is that you are a frequent victim of the friendzone.

Here's a start:

- Transition your "nice" self into a more well-balanced dick. What I mean by that is, sprinkle in "nice" with your "cocky." Tease her for how old her computer is...but help her out when she spills something/trips and falls etc. Point being, you show the playful/fun side, but supplement that with a calm seriousness when needed. This gives her a much better sample of what kind of person you are, and the more dimensions you have to offer, the better off you will look.

- Learn kino. This is your subtle way of showing her that you are attracted. You begin by initiating light contact (playful nudging/punching/pinching), look for reciprocation on her part, then proceed. If she isnt very receptive, probably means she's not feelin you. The sooner you can come to these conclusions, the easier your life will be.

Just remember what girls find value in and apply accordingly. Of course, don't lose sight of your own personality and completely go off the map, you have a special personality, you should be appreciated for it...so as always, do YOU.

Also, the term IOI gets thrown around a lot but it isnt as cut and dry as people make it out to be. A girl playing with her hair in front of you may be an IOI, but only if it isn't a simple act of scratching scalp or airing out sweaty neck. Know what I mean? Interpreting IOIs can be tough but it gets easier with time.

Good luck!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:37 pm 
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Being friend zoned is basically saying that you weren't sexual enough. I'll be honest I don't have many female friends that I've slept with and then continued a relationship after. It's communicated that I'm a sexual guy that is willing to pull the trigger and will!! Ultimately you have to take yourself out of the 'not sex' category and put yourself into the 'sex' category.
There are loads of ways of doing this but they all boil down to the same principle "I'm here to fuck you not friend you".
So on first meeting a girl I'm interested in I will do four basic things.
1. STRONG eye contact
2. Non-verbal Statement of Intent (i.e. Stand close to her). That is to say stand closer to her than you would your friends. (Note: if she takes a step back you take a step back and then start stepping forward slowly you invaded her space and she wasn't quite ready yet, put more ground work in).
3. Drop a verbal (SOI). This can be done subtly with a qualifying question or by making a blunt statement that you like her.
e.g.
I like girls who read for fun so a qualifiying question I use is "This is very important, what are you reading at the moment?". This may not seem sexual but it's the way I've posed the question that gives me that edge ([RSD terms here] with breaking rapport/challenging tone, strong eye contact, good body language, possibly maintaining some kino). I'm challenging her to see if she fits my mould of possible sex candidate. From there I either say "That is a shame (if shit book) I had high hope for you", "Tell me about it" or "Fuck, that is pretty damn cool, I had a feeling about you".

The more blunt approach is to explicitly say something like "You are exactly the kind of girl I'd have a torrid affair with. I think I'm in trouble".
There is a time and place for both. The key is to get a feel for which is when by actively doing and going out.

4. Kino. I will kino her in a way that a friend wouldn't. i.e. hold her hand, stroke back her hair, grab her hips, hands around the waist (low not high), leg to leg contact (thanks Gambler) etc. Touch her in a way that if her dad it would be pretty fucked up. Get my drift?

This is what I do. It may or may not work for you but I hope you're understanding the principle behind it. I have communicated to her I am a man looking her a potential sexual partner and I am to be viewed the same. The beauty of dropping an strong SOI (see blunt approach) is that even if she says nothing about it, everything you do form there on in, you know she knows that you see this as a sexual thing and so she must be prepared that you ARE going to make a move. It frames the interaction into a sexual one not a friend one. In saying that once I'm hanging out with a girl I'm going to try and kiss her as quick as possible (yet again you'll get a feel for it the more girls you game). If she blows me out (Which she might) then she knows I'm not here for friends. She may reject the kiss and stay put (this is good), leave (she probably won't) or she'll kiss you. Either way a result is a result. As an aside I've kissed girls without even speaking to them so that is purely a close on an strong non-verbal SOI.

Now a warning. You will get blown out if you time an SOI wrong, however it may succeed in the same instance. You never know. However I'd rather be in a situation of "she definitely doesn't want to fuck me" than "LJBF".

I hope this makes sense.
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