Hey guys!

Here’s my story in a nutshell: as a teenager, I was kind of a mess with women. I literally didn’t know where to begin, and I admit I made a lot of stupid mistakes (e.g. asking a girl to be my girlfriend 30 minutes after meeting her on an online chat – I still get a good laugh when I think about it). Then I found this awesome community, where people are not afraid to admit their mistakes because they know someone out there can help them get back on their feet.

I have to say it helped me a lot. It got me my first kiss. It got me my first girlfriend.

Fast-forward a few years. I am now on my 4th year of College. Something like 2 years ago, I discovered this book, “Conquer Your Campus”, by Mark Redman, which allowed me to see that college game was very different from the real world – as the author himself writes, “Running strong game on campus is like laying siege to a city with no walls”. Amen, brother!

I was very much into the whole PUA thing for the first 2 years, but then on the 3rd things went a little rough with my last girlfriend and also I had a challenging internship, so I decided to take some time away from sarging.

I am happy to say that now I’m back on full force However, that time I set aside for myself seems to have taken its toll. See, my biggest problem is that I’m a 21 year old fucking virgin (don’t even ask how, I’ve had plenty of opportunities, but something wrong always happened haha). Now… I know how to talk to a girl, my ego has become massive and I love doing physical escalation. Thing is, it never ends up in a kiss or better.
Just last night, there was this Brazilian girl who was immensely cute, just my kind of girl. Everyone was going fine, but then I found myself not being able to kiss-close. And this problem has been appearing often.

Now… There are a couple of girls with whom I could have done EVERYTHING. They don’t exactly make it a secret they are attracted to me and they want it… but they just don’t correspond to what I’m looking for, they’re a little to slutty (and ugly) to my liking.


Having said all of this… I’m looking for some advice on how to get through this “kiss barrier” I seem to be having that came out of nowhere. And, of course, if anyone wants to share some advice on losing virginity at such an advanced age… share away dudes

Cheers!

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"What we're doing is so wrong, and what you're wearing is so right (it's so tight!). But I've never felt better, so I'm going out to get her and I don't care what set of wheels I steal to get there."

You're probably closer to the sex than you think, it's like you ran a marathon and have 1 mile to go based on your comfort level around girls and ability to escalate physically. From what it appears you are not going on dates with these girls but you are escalating them in public or in clubs etc. If that is the case, after escalating get their # and set up a date either right then or in a couple days. Get them to a private location, and at the appropriate time, make the move for the kiss. Get in enough makeout sessions with enough girls and let the chemistry and your natural biology take over and you will be having sex in no time.

It is interesting though that you have had gf's yet no sex w/ them. If you weren't making out with these gf's or oral then there may be other issues in your head blocking you from enjoying yourself with women.

I agree with Oceanx here. Watch a movie at your or her's place. This is an excellent time to go in for the make out. You are in close proximity on the couch. You'll be surprised how fast heavy make out can lead to sex.

Also, you said your just getting kisses. That probably means your only going for the kiss. Go straight for the make out right away. Girls seldom if ever turn it down. You'll know when to go in. They are often waiting for it.

Thanks, both of you!

I just wanted to clear up some stuff: I'm probably confusing you with my idea of "kiss-close". To me, that means kissing a girl and two seconds later, making out with her.

I have had countless make out sessions with my gf's. The sex never came because, for example, one of them would always back off when I invited her to see a movie at my place (weird girl, she might actually have psychological problems lol). That sort of thing.

I remember this time when I was so close to having sex... I had even accepted guy's advice from this very forum (that I should jerk off 4 hours before having sex). I don't know what went wrong, but my little friend just couldn't get hard enough! And believe, that girl tried EVERYTHING to get it up, but... no dice.

As for the movie thing... interesting idea. I even have a bottle of wine right here in my bedroom (it's my excuse to invite her home lol)

Cheers!

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"What we're doing is so wrong, and what you're wearing is so right (it's so tight!). But I've never felt better, so I'm going out to get her and I don't care what set of wheels I steal to get there."

I think in the game kiss close meant anything from a 2 second kiss to a make out. I could be wrong.

As for your ED problem I don't know what to say. Maybe see a Doctor? I know the problem can be mental too. I've heard my friends have this problem if they were drunk or took somekind of drugs/meds. As for me I never have had the problem. Shoot just hugging a girl I get hard. Sadly.

Not a bad, with the wine. Also throw in a False time constraint if inviting her home. Something like we can watch a movie but then I gotta kick you out, early day tomorrow.

Don't put so much pressure on yourself.

Chances are, when you lose your virginity, its not going to be great sex anyway. And most peoples first times with sexual partners or their boyfriends and girlfriends (barring one night stands where you do what you like) aren't great (according to popular opinion anyway). A friend told me that when he lost his virginity to his girlfriend, he came after ten second. Its difficult, but if you do have a bad experience, try not to be too affected by it

Its important to remember that game is just a way of increasing your chances/ability with girls. I.e there is a lot of stuff about giving a girl mind blowing sex...and that should be your aim anyway. But if you don't give her mind blowing sex, its not a given that she won't want to see you again. It just increases your chances of her wanting to see you again. People aren't either Alpha or Beta. Game isn't black and white. Somethings work with some people that don't work with others. My friend is incredibly insecure about everything, but has hooked up with some really girls. This opinion might not be welcomed by some of the Game fundamentalists, and I'm not a regular forum member, but this is just from my experience of the world of game, dating and relationships etc