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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:11 pm 
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What does it mean to leave a girl better than you found her? I've seen it around the forums a little bit, and on some PUA newsletters.

The saying doesn't confuse me, I'm just not sure how one can accomplish this or how you actually know if you've accomplished this.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:15 pm 
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What does it mean to leave a girl better than you found her? I've seen it around the forums a little bit, and on some PUA newsletters.

The saying doesn't confuse me, I'm just not sure how one can accomplish this or how you actually know if you've accomplished this.
Basically they mean that Pickup is a powerful weapon and you shouldn't use it for the evil practices.
So if you approach a girl, you game her and you get her, you shouldn't play with her feelings.

That's not a PUA technique tho, that's an advice for you to follow because people should be treated good as you would like to be treated.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:40 pm 
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^^^^^ That.

Personally, I like to give it the "My Fair Lady" twist. For pick-up, precisely what Psydaddy wrote is fine, for a more of a longer term relationship, I like to turn average girlfriends in strong, independent women able to handle everything life can throw at them.

A simple exemple: Once upon a time I asked a girl out and she said "I'm not interested, sorry". An average PUA response would be to either say "It's fine" and next her, or change tactics and try again. I had known this girl for a few time and effectively liked her, so I tried to make her better and said "If you are not interested, why are you appolegising? It makes you look weak and someday someone may pray on that weekness. You are not making me any favours, if you don't want to hang out with me don't apolegise for it. Stand your ground". BTW, I eventually got her. Probably a side effect of the alpha talk. But still, I got her one step closer to not being pushed around.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:59 pm 
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If your aim in any set is to make the girl's day, it will be beneficial for both of you.

Your intention of making her happy rather than trying to get her number, means you will have more success in the latter as a by-product. She will go away feeling pleased with herself and speak to her friends, telling them the story of this amazing guy who chatted to her on the way to work, and she's going to meet up with him later bla bla.

Also by displaying your values on a date and showing what you're all about, flicking the right switches for a girl, she will have faith in men and feel good about life. She maybe will even follow your lead and start to take interest in her own life a bit more. That dress you complimented her on... do you think she will ever wear it again in the same way? of course not, she's going to feel sexy about it.

If you can touch someone's mind, it has a lasting effect.

awww how sweet.

It also gets you sex. ;)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:09 am 
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Great post El_Mago. The look in a girl's eye where she just lights up when you start talking to her - you're brightening her day and injecting positivity into her life. It's awesome.


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Great post El_Mago. The look in a girl's eye where she just lights up when you start talking to her - you're brightening her day and injecting positivity into her life. It's awesome.
Exactly. If you have ever been picked up by a girl, you know the buzz it gives you. So it's the same for her.

If she's incredibly hot, the chances are she is having guys trying to pick her up all the time, and will see the whole interaction as an annoyance. But that's where you use your game in the right way, to make her see you're not like the rest. Leave her feeling positive and with that sparkle in her eyes and it will make her day.

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As long as you have solid confidence on the approach, you will immediately separate yourself from 99.99% of those who don't know what they are doing. If you go up nervously, shaking, "hi, my names X what's your name i uh i om thought u were ahh cute and umm" you're going to get blown out. Go up smooth & real & think of her as just another human. The attitude is, 'ok you might be cute but lets see what you got.' As El_Mago just said, separate yourself from the pack. And do it from the start of the interaction & all the way through. Stop wanting to GET something from the girl; they can sense it a mile away and become annoyed with the interaction from the start. Instead, qualify her. Do this and you will leave her better than you found her. She will have met a man she respects.

Leave her with a tingle in her panties and it will make her day even better.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:14 am 
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Great question.

I believe pick up should be "Win-Win" meaning the girl wins also. Your win is obvious, you get sex. Her win will be different. Her win will be a social win. After every hookup, a man gets to go high-five his friend and is therefore better off then when the girl found him. For girls, they can be seen as a slut, and be left worse off than they originally were. A perfect pick up includes not only making her sexually satisfied, but having her friends happy that she hooked up with a higher value guy.

Also, it is extremely important to show your intentions to a girl. If you're looking for a 1 night stand, let her know. If you're looking for a relationship, she should know. (DON'T do this until you have a great deal of attraction from her part) This helps you give the woman the level of comfort she is currently desiring. If she's expecting a boyfriend, she knows you're not the guy thats going to disappear after she falls asleep.

Long story short, the day after you sleep with her, whether you're going to see her again or not, she will feel great. She won't be doing a walk of shame feeling like a slut tossed aside. She'll feel like a million bucks...(AND SO WILL YOU!)


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lol forget about it dude.

It only applies if your banging and dating tons of chicks.

In all seriousness though, when you get to that level it does get harder to be the nice guy.

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